# Why was the Twickster ATMB thread closed?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [May 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543 "2012-05-10T19:42:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/161 "2012-05-14T16:49:59Z")

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I’m left with no recourse but to doubt the sanity of any mod on this board, unless as I suspect, the service is not voluntary. I don’t know what you mods did to deserve this, but surely it is an argument in favor of the death penalty as a more humane punishment.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/162 "2012-05-14T17:05:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Yeah, that would be bad if it ever happened.

Dear Contributor: Thank you for your submission. We have reviewed it carefully, but we are returning it because it does not meet our needs at this time. Going forward, please consider your submissions more carefully as we are not interested in reading drivel.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/163 "2012-05-14T18:04:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I could almost get behind this. Imagine a visitor trying to find out what’s what here, checking out the forum titled _About This Message Board_ to find out what we’re about…and reading venom-filled diatribes and demands directed towards the moderators.  
> What a _great_ first impression.

Seems like less than ten percent of the threads in here are complaints of moderator action, despite this specifically being labeled and the place for complaints about moderator action.

Your objection seems unfounded.

Also, when the moderators deserve to be called out for inappropriate behavior, as in this case, I think it’s a great benefit to new members to know that’s a feature of board moderation up front.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/164 "2012-05-14T18:13:49Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Maybe they should just relabel ATMB as Jerk Circle/Vent here.
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> At least then, posters expectations will be in line with likely outcome.
> 
> Just own it, and be honest. People will suddenly understand. Happiness will rule the valley once again.

But we already have a Pit! 😃

ducks and runs.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/165 "2012-05-14T18:30:27Z")

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I think there is a vast difference between questioning a moderator’s decision and “calling them out” in the manner I sometimes see in this forum. You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a _little_ respect to the mods isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards-in fact, on a majority of the more civilized boards it is required. In this forum I have seen moderators called “the worst ever”, posters demanding answers, and even posters demanding that certain moderators step down. Just try to find toleration of this type of behavior in what is supposed to be an “Intro” forum on, say, the top twenty message boards around.  
BTW, when did it become popular to call those who _dare_ support the moderators “ass-kissers”?

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/166 "2012-05-14T18:33:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a _little_ respect to the mods isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards-in fact, on a majority of the more civilized boards it is required.

You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a _little_ respect to the posters isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards-in fact, on a majority of the more civilized boards it is required.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/167 "2012-05-14T18:35:32Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a _little_ respect to the posters isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards-in fact, on a majority of the more civilized boards it is required.

Would you like a cracker?

edited to add: I just went through the Big Boards site to get my info.  
Where did you go to get yours?

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/168 "2012-05-14T18:39:53Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Would you like a cracker?
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> edited to add: I just went through the Big Boards site to get my info.  
> Where did you go to get yours?

What info is there in your post that also does not exist in mine? Or are you just being intentionally ignorant[sup]1[/sup]?

[sub]1. [Moderator approved!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13221676&postcount=2)[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/169 "2012-05-14T18:41:51Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I think there is a vast difference between questioning a moderator’s decision and “calling them out” in the manner I sometimes see in this forum.

Oh dear, why I do declare!

There’s a “vast” difference between “you’re the worst ever” and what, exactly? A gold embossed formal letter written in caligraphy? Does the complainant need to be wearing a hair shirt at the time, or do you prefer the more formal top hat and monocle?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/170 "2012-05-14T18:42:08Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> What info is there in your post that also does not exist in mine? Or are you just being intentionally ignorant[sup]1[/sup]?
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> [sub]1. [Moderator approved!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13221676&postcount=2)[/sub]

Given all his other postings in ATMB, I’ll go with “intentionally ignorant” for $500.00, Alex.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/171 "2012-05-14T18:47:05Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Given all his other postings in ATMB, I’ll go with “intentionally ignorant” for $500.00, Alex.

Not the right forum to continue this conversation with you.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/172 "2012-05-14T18:49:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a little respect to the mods isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards…

Respect has to be earned. And your time as mod earned no such merits, for example.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/173 "2012-05-14T18:53:16Z")

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I can see getting a little frustrated of a remedy is first sought out via PM or email and no answer is forthcoming(which isn’t the same thing as getting an answer that doesn’t go in your favor, btw). Of course, this doesn’t give the bystanders a chance to pick up pitchforks a toss in their favorite nasty quips.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/174 "2012-05-14T18:53:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> BTW, when did it become popular to call those who _dare_ support the moderators “ass-kissers”?

1. This is a false dichotomy. In terms you’d be more comfortable with, that means “it’s not an either-or” situation. I’d be glad to rephrase again if you need me to. Most people support some mods, dislike others and some base their comments on the actions of the mods. It’s only a very few of you who post ass-kisser crap, supporting the mods under _any_ circumstances at all just like there are very few who post about how they hate the mods, no matter what they do.

2. It’s not all of “those who _dare_ support the mods” who post ass-kissing stuff, it’s you and your ilk who take _any_ criticism of the mods, however tiny, however well deserved and turn it into a “Let’s see how much we can suck up to the mods while shrieking like a harpy on fire that the mods are treated worse than transvestite drug-dealers in a Turkish prison”-posting fest.

There are many posters who support the mods who don’t post ass-kissing threadshits. It’s you and a few others who do.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/175 "2012-05-14T18:53:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> . . . You might find this hard to believe, but showing just a _little_ respect to the mods isn’t really considered to be a fault on most of the major message boards-in fact, on a majority of the more civilized boards it is required. . .

Wasn’t it a lack of respect by a mod towards a member that what started this two thread long train wreck?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/176 "2012-05-14T18:56:39Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Wasn’t it a lack of respect by a mod towards a member that what started this two thread long train wreck?

Indeed, but only mods are worthy of innate respect, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/177 "2012-05-14T19:00:04Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Wasn’t it a lack of respect by a mod towards a member that what started this two thread long train wreck?

There we have a difference of opinion. It would be nice to have a place to discuss this difference of opinion in a civil manner, would it not?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/178 "2012-05-14T19:00:58Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> Indeed, but only mods are worthy of innate respect, apparently.

Or, y’know, privacy, given the insistence by Czarcasm that all complaints about mods should be handled privately, even though the actions of the mods were public.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/179 "2012-05-14T19:09:51Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Or, y’know, privacy, given the insistence by Czarcasm that all complaints about mods should be handled privately, even though the actions of the mods were public.

Not what I said at all, of course.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/180 "2012-05-14T19:15:21Z")

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Some posters seem to want to see a punishing, disciplining, admonishing or whatall of moderators by higher-ups to be done in public. Does this work out, or even happen, on other major message boards?

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