# Why Was This Thread Closed?

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**Created:** [May 10, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902 "2010-05-10T13:02:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/1 "2010-05-10T13:02:26Z")

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> **[Affirmed:Lenin really is the tits](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561696)**
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> … no matter what you might say about his domestic heavy-handedness. Lenin, 40+ years before Ike and without the benefit of Ike’s hindsight on (and singular involvement in) WWII along with the obvious results of that war in turning our large...

Simple question, no rant.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/2 "2010-05-10T13:34:14Z")

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Because it had gone a day and a half with no serious discussion and then it was resurrected and had gone two more days with virtually nothing but off-topic chatter and veiled insults.  
That is a recipe for flaming, not debate.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/3 "2010-05-10T17:58:11Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Because it had gone a day and a half with no serious discussion and then it was resurrected and had gone two more days with virtually nothing but off-topic chatter and veiled insults.  
> That is a recipe for flaming, not debate.

From your post #199

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> Originally Posted by Der Trihs View Post
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> > Lenin was a monster, and that’s all that matters about him.
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> Actually, had Lenin actually written something that clearly described a phenomenon, that fact that he was a monster would be irrelevant to the accuracy of his statement, (a point that was too long missed by too many posters in this thread for far too many days).

Ah, I said. The man understands.

Too bad you waited 'til Post #199 to say something. Had you shown up as an off-duty mod early on and said this, the thread might well have taken different turn. You had half a dozen opportunities to support my explicit requests for focus starting in my Post #9.

But then this.

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> On the other hand, as it has now been demonstrated that Lenin’s statement was wrong in both its broad outline and its particulars, we can ignore his monstrous character and simply dismiss his erroneous essay.

I assumed you were kidding.

Did anyone actually address the main issue except **Second Stone** who, in several posts, supported the OP based on his reading of Imperialism. Can you point to any posts that reasonably refuted anything he or I had to say? I (jokingly) asked for a cite. Your (somewhat surly if I may say so) response was

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> It’s your thread; go read it.

And then, YOU brought what’s his name back into it with

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> Originally Posted by [del]Bryan Ekers[/del] View Post  
> The “tits-up” reference is merely a punning observation on the 36 hours the thread had gone without a post from anyone.

25 hr and 45 minutes, actually.

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> And I will thank you to not breathe new life into exhausted threads in the future–particularly threads with as much heat and little light as this one.

So let me get this straight, any current thread in which _you_ see no light and which _you_ consider “exhausted” is subject to immediate death panel zombiehood?

And then to me

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> No. You should have sat on your hands and not continued posting personal remarks off topic to this thread. I am glad that you recognize that this thread is pretty much horseshit, but since you appear to want to keep it going long after its expiration date, I am closing it.

My “off topic remarks” were in response to yours and if “this thread is pretty much horseshit”, it’s due to the relative lack of germane response to the OP.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/4 "2010-05-10T19:38:23Z")

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Here’s a lovely example of another of my “resurrected” (after roughly two mos. of exhaustion) threads which I, myself, had written off to zombiedom but, nonetheless, may still be worth looking at. [How to respond to high-frequency trading? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554731)

Your mod hat is not a crown. I only ask that you let Lenin die a natural death.

Remember,

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> Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down: Frederick Douglass

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/5 "2010-05-10T20:22:45Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> 25 hr and 45 minutes, actually.

Heh… I miscounted.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/6 "2010-05-10T20:33:15Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Heh… I miscounted.

At risk of getting off topic, it’s not the first time.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/7 "2010-05-10T21:23:39Z")

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Nor will it be the last, I’m confident.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/8 "2010-05-10T21:44:53Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Nor will it be the last, I’m confident.

Will you please let **tomndebb** get a word in? Before he shuts us down, of course.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/9 "2010-05-10T22:02:45Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> Will you please let **tomndebb** get a word in? Before he shuts us down, of course.

Meanwhile, let me ask you, did you ever bother to read the Preface and Chapter V of Imperialism?

If yes, what did you make of it?

If not, are you still talking?

Speak up.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/10 "2010-05-11T03:12:48Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> Here’s a lovely example of another of my “resurrected” (after roughly two mos. of exhaustion) threads which I, myself, had written off to zombiedom but, nonetheless, may still be worth looking at. [How to respond to high-frequency trading? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554731)
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> Your mod hat is not a crown. I only ask that you let Lenin die a natural death.
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> Remember,

From what I could see–as I have already pointed out–it had already died a natural death. I was simply driving the stake through its heart to prevent its further unnatural resurrections.

I suppose it would have been nice if I had made the point that Lenin’s evil actions were irrelevant to his authorship at some earlier point. On the other hand, when I first opened the thread and saw the nonsense attributed to Lenin with his utter misreading of the history of monopolies and capitalism, I decided that the topic would be boring and did not stick around to watch it get sidetracked and, since no one reported the sidetrack, I did not revisit the thread until it it was much further along.

If it will give you comfort, I will re-open the thread–with the proviso that if it continues to be little more than cheap shots that I have to keep monitoring to make sure that the insults are not getting out of hand, I am going to close it once more.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-this-thread-closed/538902/11 "2010-05-11T05:45:50Z")

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Thanks and fair enough.
