# Why wasn't the thread moved? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 20, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137 "2012-01-20T16:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/21 "2012-01-21T04:45:49Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I don’t have a problem with some well-founded skepticism directed my way; and I do my best to address that criticism in coherent, clear, non-inflammatory ways. However, putting a thread into the Pit changes things _entirely._ There is no “good faith” discussions or fair arguing going on; it is primarily a slugfest consisting of nothing but disrespectful slams and dishonest mischaracterizations. It is nothing but negative energy that I want no part of. For those who get some degree of satisfaction from those type of threads; have at it. But for threads that I start in other forums, I’d like those threads to remain in their respective forums. Translation: I want to be able to post the most ridiculous self-aggrandizing crap I can think of and not be subjected to scrutiny. And I should be able to hand wave away any such scrutiny because I’m sick and tired of being caught out at minimizing my role as an instigator in my many tales of alleged discrimination and oppression. Look, dude. If you want to post in IMHO and MPSIMS, then confine your topics to kitties, rainbows and nipple preferences. Your threads belong in the Pit because they are pit-worthy, whether that’s your choice or not. No one here is obligated to give you huggles when your stories are filled with so many implausibilities that people are inclined to yell, “bullshit!” Man up and own the shit you post. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/22 "2012-01-21T05:14:22Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Perhaps you should stop reading the SDMB if it “really, really upsets you”. Give him a break. This board [is his life](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12463696&postcount=27), man! ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/23 "2012-01-21T05:43:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It also sucks that the guy who got suspended did so because he was fighting letting those people control the thread. The guy who got suspended did so because he was willfully and repeatedly violating at least 3 rules, by my count. If I were a mod, I would have brought up the possibility of banning with the other mods. He got off lightly. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/24 "2012-01-21T07:52:21Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > Translation: I want to be able to post the most ridiculous self-aggrandizing crap I can think of and not be subjected to scrutiny. And I should be able to hand wave away any such scrutiny because I’m sick and tired of being caught out at minimizing my role as an instigator in my many tales of alleged discrimination and oppression. > > Look, dude. If you want to post in IMHO and MPSIMS, then confine your topics to kitties, rainbows and nipple preferences. Your threads belong in the Pit because they are pit-worthy, whether that’s your choice or not. No one here is obligated to give you huggles when your stories are filled with so many implausibilities that people are inclined to yell, “bullshit!” > > Man up and own the shit you post. OMG. This thread absolutely was not pit worthy. Give it a rest. It was in the appropriate forum. I stand by my account of the story one hundred percent; as I said, the one thing I yelled back in response to his flabbergasting verbal assault is the _only thing_, the only element whatsoever, to the story that I didn’t include originally. And it was only because I didn’t find it particularly relevant. This man was angry at me for assuming he wasn’t disabled and “being selfish”, not calling him an asshole after he (_most_ inappropriately and unexpectedly) called me a rude motherfucker and told me to shut the fuck up. And I _did_ include the detail when I thought of it; if I had any deceit intended with this I would never have included it, period. These “inconsistencies”, if that is what you want to call them, are evidence of my poor story telling skills, _that’s it._ Not evidence of dishonest writing. \*it’s posts like this that make _me_ want to be in the Pit. Momentarily, that is. Then I get over it. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/25 "2012-01-21T08:00:29Z")
It’s true that _someone_ needs to give it a rest… ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/26 "2012-01-21T08:03:45Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > It’s true that _someone_ needs to give it a rest… ? I don’t understand. Was this directed at _me?_ For what? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/27 "2012-01-21T08:29:56Z")
I was a participant in that thread and I agree with the mod decision. It didn’t deserve to end up in the pit. **Ambivalid** I do not want you to get assaulted. I think you are an OK guy and generally enjoy reading your posts - but I think you have a severe ‘hot button’ issue about wheelchair accessibility which makes you act in ways that could be self-defeating. I posted in the faint hope that you would examine your actions to see if you could have acted in a more defensive manner - in that instance and in others. However, **pixie snyx** or whoever is someone you _really_ don’t want on your side. Nor, indeed, **Big T**. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/28 "2012-01-21T10:28:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’d appreciate the moderation more if the people who kept hijacking all your threads would get warned for repeated violations of the rules rather than just the thread getting locked. **Effectively the mods are letting other people decide what you are allowed to talk about, or, in some cases** , that you aren’t allowed to talk at all. > > It also sucks that the guy who got suspended did so because he was fighting letting those people control the thread. But of course, that’s more his fault than anyone else’s. There’s a reason I just posted a little snark and ran away. > > EDIT: Because I knew I wouldn’t be able to control myself if I got into an argument. The way **Ambivalid** is treated, even if I allow for people possibly believing he is a horrible person, really, really upsets me. This was mostly what left me scratching my head, but from the other side - most of what I see here is the that the OP does not have control of a thread once started. I don’t have a problem with the modding per-se, except that the discussion was totally shut down - I thought the discussion could have evolved, OR, if really inappropriate for MPSIMS - then move it. Don’t just shut it down when the OP is not getting the sort of love he wants. And as to starting a pit thread - what would I have been pitting exactly? There was nothing in that thread worthy of pitting. Not Ambivalid’s actions, nor any of the other posters, so any pit thread I could have started would have been rather limp wristed… And as has been said, if Ambivalid really wants to define and maintain control of the discussion, then start a blog. Don’t start a thread and then define what is within bounds that you are willing to discuss… ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/29 "2012-01-21T12:40:31Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I don’t have a problem with the modding per-se, except that the discussion was totally shut down - **I thought the discussion could have evolved** , OR, if really inappropriate for MPSIMS - then move it. Don’t just shut it down when the OP is not getting the sort of love he wants. Bolding mine, and I disagree. I doubt anymore needed to be said after the initial post and some “poor you” commiserations/validations. After that, either close it or move it. Nothing would be forcing the OP to “defend himself” in the pit if it got moved; he could just ignore it. Locking it would do the same thing as far as he is concerned, as he really didn’t add anything\* after the initial post other than to try defend himself. \*and really didn’t need to add anything, as the way I see it he was just venting to begin with ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/30 "2012-01-21T12:43:10Z")
**Splatterpunk** (awesome name) probably does have a point. However… I don’t think a thread should be moved for similar facts. People should ignore it or pit it. And **Twicks** - take a bow. You did well. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/31 "2012-01-21T19:24:26Z")
> [@srzss05](#): > > Bolding mine, and I disagree. I doubt anymore needed to be said after the initial post and some “poor you” commiserations/validations. I’m fine with it not being moved. I am a bit bothered that the discussion was shut down. There were several open points left dangling, including why I thought not including the fact it was raining in the OP was an important omission (it totally changes the scene and lends support to Ambivalid’s lack of patience). However, I can also see that it would have been difficult to drag it back on track. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/32 "2012-01-21T20:43:02Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > This was mostly what left me scratching my head, but from the other side - most of what I see here is the that the OP does not have control of a thread once started. > > I don’t have a problem with the modding per-se, except that the discussion was totally shut down - I thought the discussion could have evolved, OR, if really inappropriate for MPSIMS - then move it. Don’t just shut it down when the OP is not getting the sort of love he wants. > > And as to starting a pit thread - what would I have been pitting exactly? There was nothing in that thread worthy of pitting. Not Ambivalid’s actions, nor any of the other posters, so any pit thread I could have started would have been rather limp wristed… > > And as has been said, if Ambivalid really wants to define and maintain control of the discussion, then start a blog. > > **Don’t start a thread and then define what is within bounds that you are willing to discuss…** (Bolding mine) I absolutely, positively **did not** start this thread and try to define what is in bounds as far discussions are concerned. That is preposterous. Quite the opposite; I said I am willing to discuss and respond to any respectful, in-good-faith criticism at all times. I enjoy heated discussions. However, I **do not** enjoy personal attacks and disrespectful, disparaging slams which are the hallmark of Pit threads. That is all I was protesting: moving my thread to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/33 "2012-01-21T22:12:32Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > I was a participant in that thread and I agree with the mod decision. It didn’t deserve to end up in the pit. > > **Ambivalid** I do not want you to get assaulted. I think you are an OK guy and generally enjoy reading your posts - but I think you have a severe ‘hot button’ issue about wheelchair accessibility which makes you act in ways that could be self-defeating. I posted in the faint hope that you would examine your actions to see if you could have acted in a more defensive manner - in that instance and in others. > > However, **pixie snyx** or whoever is someone you _really_ don’t want on your side. Nor, indeed, **Big T**. I know this is neither here nor there but since you brought it up in that thread I wanted to say this: that woman parked in the handicapped spot in the RiteAid parking lot who I asked about her permit (or lack therof) was parked in a handicapped spot with absolutely no placard/permit on display at all. All I did was ask her about that. I feel like I did the right thing. This was a woman, walking seemingly totally fine, leaving her car parked in a handicapped spot with no placard or ID. This is a textbook example of when it IS appropriate for someone like me to ask a person like that about their lack of necessary permit. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/34 "2012-01-21T22:48:33Z")
People, we’re in ATMB. Attacks on each other and on each other’s posting history are out of place, as are substantive matters already dealt with or not in other threads. The issue here is why a particular mod handled a particular matter in a particular way, not anyone else’s behavior in that thread or others. **twickster** , for the SDMB [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137.md?page=1)