# Why were Pedro and Onil Castro Arrested?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 8, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845 "2013-05-08T22:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/21 "2013-05-09T16:08:32Z")

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> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> IANAL  
> If I’m not mistaken, a person can be held for 72 hours ‘just because’. You can equate ‘just because’ with just about anything, under the sun.

No, that is Constitutionally incorrect!

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/22 "2013-05-09T16:10:15Z")

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> [@Rysler](#):
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> The women have been extremely forthcoming.

Yes, in between demands for three bowie knives and five minutes with Ariel…

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**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/23 "2013-05-09T16:29:56Z")

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> [@lawbuff](#):
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> No, that is Constitutionally incorrect!

It may be ‘Constitutionally incorrect’, but I guarantee you that it is _ **not** _ something that you want to try and prove me wrong on. I have ‘been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it’! Just because it’s ‘Constitutionally incorrect’, DAMN sure does not mean, that it does not happen, _ **EVERY DAY** _!

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**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/24 "2013-05-09T16:41:52Z")

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> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> It may be ‘Constitutionally incorrect’, but I guarantee you that it is _ **not** _ something that you want to try and prove me wrong on. I have ‘been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it’! Just because it’s ‘Constitutionally incorrect’, DAMN sure does not mean, that it does not happen, _ **EVERY DAY** _!

If you were arrested in violation of the 4th AM, consult a lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/25 "2013-05-09T16:47:17Z")

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I went by the park opposite the Justice Center in Cleveland today and counted eight news vans with satellite dishes. This case is getting a _lot_ of attention.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/26 "2013-05-09T17:07:56Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It seems so darn obvious. Show these women pictures of the brothers. “Have you seen these men in the house?” “Did they feed you, tie you up or hurt you?”
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> Why they didn’t do that before arresting innocent men is beyond me.

That would be a pretty classic example of an unduly suggestive identification technique. You can’t just show people pictures of one person and ask if “that’s the guy who did it.” Victims will generally answer yes (for reasons that would fill up an entire thread), regardless of whether or not it’s true. Any subsequent in-court identification of the suspect by the same witness would be barred.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/27 "2013-05-09T18:02:17Z")

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That’s true. The cops could have simply asked the women if they interacted with anyone else in that house besides the accused. If they said No then that eliminates the brothers from direct involvement.

I said “interacted with” because some people might have provided support. Bringing food, supplies or even medicine. Somehow that new born thrived and grew up to a healthy six year old.

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**Author:** ![LMarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@LMarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LMarie)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/28 "2013-05-09T19:49:41Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> A short time ago, Onil and Pedro Castro were freed, and their brother was charged with kidnapping and rape. Do we know why Pedro and Onil were arrested in the first place? The stories only seem to report what they were suspected of, but not why they were suspected of it.

I heard early reports that the three brothers were together when the police actually found Ariel. Given the nature of the case and the men’s relationship to one another, it seemed logical at the time.

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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/29 "2013-05-09T21:41:49Z")

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I agree, if someone’s name and picture is splashed all over the news as “arrested in suspicion regarding 10 year kidnap-torture-rape case” maybe someone should be explaining why they got such publicity with basically zero evidence. Someone in the system screwed up This is a LOT worse that a bunch of facebook users “outing” the wrong bombing suspects. Weaseling out with “but we didn’t actually say they were guilty” is a bit of a cop-out.

I suppose the only saving grace is that the public exoneration is getting almost as much press.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/30 "2013-05-09T22:08:45Z")

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> [@LMarie](#):
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> I heard early reports that the three brothers were together when the police actually found Ariel. Given the nature of the case and the men’s relationship to one another, it seemed logical at the time.

This is what I came in to say. And I’m pretty sure that when I heard it, it was coming straight from a LEO’s mouth.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/31 "2013-05-10T00:12:06Z")

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> [@lawbuff](#):
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> If you were arrested in violation of the 4th AM, consult a lawyer.

You really think it would be done in a way that was actually illegal? “He was free to go the whole time, I swear” or “He was charged with disorderly conduct” or some other stupid charge that doesn’t really have any requirements.

Who is the judge going to believe, the miscreant or the guy he plays golf with every Sunday?

And that’s not even counting the fact that it was obviously a long time ago. Flippant remarks like yours are not helpful in the slightest.

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**Author:** ![LMarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@LMarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LMarie)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/32 "2013-05-10T00:14:45Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> This is what I came in to say. And I’m pretty sure that when I heard it, it was coming straight from a LEO’s mouth.

LEO?

If they were all together when Ariel was captured and the two brothers were allowed to walk, the public would go insane. As it stands now, despite their release, it’s difficult to believe that they knew nothing of their brother’s crimes. Yes, it’s possible and I accept that they are innocents wrongly arrested, just sayin’…10 years!?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/33 "2013-05-10T00:29:10Z")

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LEO = Law enforcement officer.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/34 "2013-05-10T00:31:02Z")

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The suspect’s daughter was best friends with Gina DeJesus. His son did a college news report on the kidnappings a few years ago. The whole family has connections to the case.  
[http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local\_news/cleveland\_metro/arlene-castro-daughter-of-kidnapping-rape-suspect-ariel-castro-devastated-by-cleveland-abduction](http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/arlene-castro-daughter-of-kidnapping-rape-suspect-ariel-castro-devastated-by-cleveland-abduction)

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> Arlene Castro said she had “no idea” that her father allegedly kidnapped three girls, including her good friend Gina DeJesus 10 years ago.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/35 "2013-05-10T00:41:53Z")

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> [@LMarie](#):
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> LEO?

Sorry. **L** aw **E** nforcement **O** fficer - I’m pretty sure the early account I heard of the three brothers being together when they were arrested came directly from someone representing the local police.

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**Author:** ![LMarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@LMarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LMarie)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/36 "2013-05-10T05:17:49Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> LEO = Law enforcement officer.

> [@voltaire](#):
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> Sorry. **L** aw **E** nforcement **O** fficer - I’m pretty sure the early account I heard of the three brothers being together when they were arrested came directly from someone representing the local police.

Ah, LEO, of course…Duh! lol

Thanks, guys. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/37 "2013-05-10T15:46:13Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And that’s not even counting the fact that it was obviously a long time ago. Flippant remarks like yours are not helpful in the slightest.

Saying to someone if they think they were arrested in violation of the 4th AM, consult an attorney, is flippant in your eyes, get real!

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/38 "2013-05-11T01:34:30Z")

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Word on the street has been that the two brothers are both severe alcoholics and unable to work. Wonder if the stress of knowing their brother’s secret contributed to that?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/39 "2013-05-11T02:18:08Z")

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What an incredibly irresponsible speculation.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-pedro-and-onil-castro-arrested/657845/40 "2013-05-11T03:53:33Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> Word on the street has been that the two brothers are both severe alcoholics and unable to work. Wonder if the stress of knowing their brother’s secret contributed to that?

It’s more likely that inheriting some money from their father allowed them to become alcoholics and live without the need for regular work.

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