# Why won't my laptop battery last anymore?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 28, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236 "2003-08-28T17:17:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Opus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/858c86/32.png) [@Opus1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Opus1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/1 "2003-08-28T17:17:48Z")

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In the last few months, my laptop seems to be getting absolutely atrocious–and in some cases, impossible–battery time. It used to last 1.5-3 hours on battery depending upon what I was doing, and charged at a rate of about 1%/minute. Now I’m lucky if I can ever go half an hour on battery. And charging is much slower too.

Just today, it went from 86% charged to 4% charged in 6 minutes! That’s obviously impossible, so there might be some sort of error in reporting the battery level.

Can someone give me some ideas why I’m getting such crappy battery times, and what I can do to fix it? It’s a Dell Inspiron 4100.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/2 "2003-08-28T17:29:26Z")

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Heat, whether ambient or caused by rapid charging, is the enemy of most rechargeable battery types, including NiCd, NiMH and to a lesser extent, Li-ion. Heating of the electrolyte leads to a chemical breakdown of its constituents resulting in a progrressively lower capacity over time. Overcharging can also cause a capacity loss, since once the battery is fully charged, the charging current begins working to electrolyze the water in the electrolyte. The only real fix is a new battery, I’m afraid.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/3 "2003-08-29T01:27:23Z")

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It really depends on the battery type. I have rescued some NiMHs by going thru a deep discharge cycle a couple times: Turn off all power savings and let it run for a while. Some makers supply a battery learning program that does something like this.

LiOns, those just plain go bad with not much help in fixing them.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/4 "2003-08-29T04:02:49Z")

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How long have you been using this battery. Most notebook batteries regardless of formulation give about a year to two years at most before they turn to crap.

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/5 "2003-08-29T14:16:08Z")

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I rescued some by just cleaning the contacts.

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**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/6 "2003-08-29T15:28:35Z")

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Second **ftg** ’s advice.

Any decent battery charger should have a discharge cycle before charging.

Some call it “memory.” It is a knee in the curve of available voltage and current. Routinely discharging a battery fully before charging it will flatten the knee in that curve.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/7 "2003-08-29T15:44:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AcidKid \*  
> \*\*Some call it “memory.” It is a knee in the curve of available voltage and current. Routinely discharging a battery fully before charging it will flatten the knee in that curve. \*\*

So, I should occasionally completely discharge my laptop battery to help it last longer? I was told this, and I do this occasionally, but would I be better off doing it on a regular basis (every other month or so)?

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-my-laptop-battery-last-anymore/198236/8 "2003-08-29T21:34:52Z")

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“Completely discharging” batteries of any type is never a good idea. The kind of discharge cycling I talk about is to get to the point where the device won’t start up anymore. There’s still quite a few volts left. E.g., a 1.2V cell might be drained down to .8V. Multiply by the number of cells in the battery to see that “completely” doesn’t apply.
