# Why won't TubaDiva or Czarscasm address these 2 questions? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 8, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964 "2011-08-08T17:21:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/21 "2011-08-09T18:18:37Z")
I think **Irishman** ’s assessment is dead on. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/22 "2011-08-09T21:07:07Z")
Although I’m impacted by it in no way whatsoever, I find the modding here to be very poor, but I find the childish and inept responses by the moderators to the reactions to the poor modding to be absolutely stunning. Grow up. Making a modding mistake is really no big deal - but being unable to respond in an adult manner when someone points out that you’ve made a mistake is just sad. ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/23 "2011-08-09T21:28:57Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Although I’m impacted by it in no way whatsoever, I find the modding here to be very poor, but I find the childish and inept responses by the moderators to the reactions to the poor modding to be absolutely stunning. Grow up. Making a modding mistake is really no big deal - but being unable to respond in an adult manner when someone points out that you’ve made a mistake is just sad. Agreed. Remember, it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![I\_Know\_Nothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f04885/32.png) [@I\_Know\_Nothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Know_Nothing)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/24 "2011-08-09T22:00:30Z")
Dude, he gave out 4 warnings in that thread. He probably just got sick of copying and pasting. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/25 "2011-08-09T22:20:46Z")
I think all of this could be solved if we could just call other posters “cunt” in the Pit. Too much unreleased tension with nowhere to go is preventing people from acting like grownups. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/26 "2011-08-09T22:24:29Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I think all of this could be solved if we could just call other posters “cunt” in the Pit. In size 12 red text. And centered. ---
**Author:** ![Mewl\_Dear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Mewl\_Dear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mewl_Dear)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/27 "2011-08-09T22:30:00Z")
I think that the lack of a response from either mod is very telling. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/28 "2011-08-10T07:24:53Z")
> [@Mewl\_Dear](#): > > I think that the lack of a response from either mod is very telling. In my experience, some mods are very forthcoming in either defending their position, or admitting a mistake. Some seem to think that sticking their heads in the sand, and presumably hoping that the whole thing will blow over, is a satisfactory course of action. Again, in my experience, this rarely helps the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/29 "2011-08-10T09:54:56Z")
> [@Mewl\_Dear](#): > > I think that the lack of a response from either mod is very telling. Indeed. I didn’t realize the questions were that difficult to answer. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/30 "2011-08-11T21:38:47Z")
And another day goes by. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/31 "2011-08-11T21:54:54Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > And another day goes by. You are aware that the questions have, in fact, been answered, right? The fact that you dislike the answers doesn’t compel the mods to come back with new and different ones. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/32 "2011-08-11T22:01:43Z")
I’m aware that Dex took a shot at it and whiffed. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/33 "2011-08-11T22:24:50Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > The answer to (1) is that you were warned for failure to heed moderator instructions. > > The answer to (2) is that life is unfair. It’s probably the same reason that I got a speeding ticket when others who had been passing me, didn’t. > [@Beadalin](#): > > I’m aware that Dex took a shot at it and whiffed. Yeah, the answer to 2 is obviously that “_Gas Grass or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free_” bumper sticker he has on his Camaro. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/34 "2011-08-11T22:41:14Z")
This should be the forum in which mods give _reasonable_ answers. If they can’t be “moderate” in their actions and explanations, then they should rein themselves in a little. Although I don’t _always_ agree with him, **Irishman** strikes me as being someone who would make an excellent moderator. He doesn’t bully and he is capable of seeing both sides before yielding judgment. If others were not warned for the same thing, then the warning for anyone else should be withdrawn. You are supposed to be fair moderators, not policemen enforcing a law. And it is a BIG HAIRY DEAL when the indivisual says it is. Life isn’t always fair, but moderators are supposed to at least make an effort. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/35 "2011-08-11T23:05:02Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Although I don’t _always_ agree with him, **Irishman** strikes me as being someone who would make an excellent moderator. He doesn’t bully and he is capable of seeing both sides before yielding judgment. That’s what he _wants_ you to think. :shiftyeye: ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/36 "2011-08-11T23:37:14Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > This should be the forum in which mods give _reasonable_ answers. If they can’t be “moderate” in their actions and explanations, then they should rein themselves in a little. > > Although I don’t _always_ agree with him, **Irishman** strikes me as being someone who would make an excellent moderator. He doesn’t bully and he is capable of seeing both sides before yielding judgment. > > If others were not warned for the same thing, then the warning for anyone else should be withdrawn. You are supposed to be fair moderators, not policemen enforcing a law. And it is a BIG HAIRY DEAL when the indivisual says it is. Life isn’t always fair, but moderators are supposed to at least make an effort. I usually stay out of this type of discussion, but I’d like to expand on this and point out that “life is unfair” doesn’t answer the OP’s second question because this isn’t about “life”. It’s about the deliberate actions of a person. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/37 "2011-08-12T00:04:52Z")
And related to the first question, the poster hadn’t broken the long-standing rules of the board OR the magical rules that Czarcasm pulled out of his ass for the occasion. He was in no way deserving of a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/38 "2011-08-12T06:27:10Z")
Reposting TubaDiva’s last post in my original ATMB thread, since it’s still locked and I only just noticed the update. It’s relevant (bolding mine). > [@](#): > > Okay, here’s what we’re going to do: > > 1. We are keeping the original IMHO thread closed. If you wish to comment about avatars on the SDMB, please go to the ATMB thread on the subject. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/…d.php?t=618021](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=618021) > > You are invited to make your comments/state your opinion in this thread, as was requested to begin with. > > Please remember that ATMB is not the Pit; personal insults and intemperate behavior will not be appreciated. > > The purpose of the thread is not to bash other people who hold differing opinions nor to slap at management for how they run things. If you feel that way, open a separate thread in the appropriate forum as necessary. > > 1. The thread in IMHO will not be reopened. We need to figure out how to set up situations where there can be polls and not posts – it works the other way around but apparently with our current software you can’t just have a poll without supporting postings. > > In retrospect, we should have policed that IMHO thread stronger and more aggressively earlier. We’ll try to be better about that in future. > > \*\*3. The warnings issued in IMHO will stand. \*\* > > Refusal to read all relevant posts in a thread and being ignorant of posted moderator instructions is no excuse. > > Posters are obligated to read and comply with moderator instructions, even if they disagree with them. If you have a problem, complaints can be made in ATMB The warnings will stand? Why? Again, I didn’t break moderator instructions with [my post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14097195&postcount=68) in the avatars thread in IMHO. What part of my post is debate? Please speak in words of fewer than one syllable. Pretend I’m a retard, if it helps. I want Czar to man the hell up and admit that he had a shitty day and made a shitty decision. Or I want one of the other mods to do the right fucking thing and rescind my warning. This isn’t going to go away if you ignore us hard enough. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/39 "2011-08-12T07:12:56Z")
Not that I’m a moderator, but I would think that > [@](#): > > That the board owner would actively turn away free money is foolish in the extreme. could be considered a violation of the “don’t be a jerk” rule. And you all totally need to drop the > [@](#): > > Or I want one of the other mods to do the right fucking thing and rescind my warning Or the > [@](#): > > This isn’t going to go away if you ignore us hard enough or the > [@](#): > > I want Czar to man the hell up and admit that he had a shitty day and made a shitty decision shit. The administration is under exactly ZERO obligation to explain why the warning stands. And they have no obligation to withdraw a warning simply because you keep bitching about it[sup]\*[/sup]. _And_ they shouldn’t have to “man up and admit it” solely because it’s what you think should happen. In short, you have a list of needless demands, and a statement that _COULD BE_ an accusation that you’ll troll about this at some point (and I am not for suggesting, even for a minute, that you ARE trolling). At this point, you and **Oakminister** come across as being so goddam bored that you have to _invent_ things to be dead about. The fucking horse is dead. Stop beating it. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wont-tubadiva-or-czarscasm-address-these-2-questions/591964/40 "2011-08-12T09:25:32Z")
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