# Why would gays want to "propagate their lifestyle"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 27, 2002, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317 "2002-03-27T03:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/1 "2002-03-27T03:46:00Z")
Many consevatives accuse gays of trying to “propagate thier lifestyle”. What on Earth motivation do they think gays have in doing this? It’s not like its a religion that encourages its followers to proselytize or a economic system that’s incompatible with our current one. Why would making more of our future generation gay be of much interest to homosexuals? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/2 "2002-03-27T04:00:51Z")
Because many, many, **many** neo-conservatives still hold the highly erroneous belief that homosexuality is a choice, and that one must be “recruited” into that “lifestyle”. What lifestyle they’re talking about, I don’t know, as **this** homosexual’s lifestyle is pretty much boring. Sleep (alone), work (with 99% already married men), occasionally go to the local gay bar to have iced tea (real iced tea, not the Long Island variety) and watch ER, and sometimes, very rarely, have sex with another man. Does **not** happen often. You have to wonder, though, how homosexuality can be so much amazingly better than heterosexuality that the mere mention of anything to do with it will instantly lead the average person astray, and yet have all those homosexuals be so terribly miserable as the neo-conservatives like to paint them… jayjay ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/3 "2002-03-27T04:01:20Z")
Insecurity, a defense tactic, I suppose. They feel threatened by anyone different from them, so they say these people are trying to force their beliefs or ways or whatever you call it on others. It can be accused against anyone, really. Very sad. ---
**Author:** ![SFCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@SFCanadian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SFCanadian)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/4 "2002-03-27T04:41:21Z")
OK, I’ll admit it… I’m guilty… Propagator here… I just figured if I changed enough of you the Networks would finally cancel “Love Connection” and “Temptation Island”… I haven’t gotten very far yet, but I’m willing to keep trying… Propagation is a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it! 😉 SFCanadian ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/5 "2002-03-27T04:48:45Z")
So they can get [dates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105149), duh. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/6 "2002-03-27T05:52:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*Because many, many, **many** neo-conservatives still hold the highly erroneous belief that homosexuality is a choice, and that one must be “recruited” into that “lifestyle”. \*\* Not to nitpick, but I don’t really know if that’s really a neo-conservative view. I’m sure some neo-conservatives believe that, but neo-conservative thought doesn’t really talk about it much. That seems to be more of a religious right idea. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/7 "2002-03-27T20:52:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pizzabrat \* > Many consevatives accuse gays of trying to “propagate thier lifestyle”. What on Earth motivation do they think gays have in doing this? Why, to annoy conservatives, of course! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/8 "2002-03-27T21:43:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\* > > Not to nitpick, but I don’t really know if that’s really a neo-conservative view. I’m sure some neo-conservatives believe that, but neo-conservative thought doesn’t really talk about it much. That seems to be more of a religious right idea. \*\* I’m not sure if your definition and my definition of “neo-conservative” mesh…I use “neo-conservative” to denote the breed of busybody Mrs. Grundys that have sprung up since the late 70s, conservatives who, rather than conserving the spirit of the Constitution, prefer to try to keep everybody from doing anything that might be in the least pleasurable. Meaning that my version of “neo-conservative” pretty much correlates with the term “religious right”. _shrug_ Tomato, tomahto… 😉 jayjay ---
**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/9 "2002-03-27T22:05:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pizzabrat \* > \*\*Why would making more of our future generation gay be of much interest to homosexuals? \*\* Because, see, they KNOW they’re going to hell, and they want to make sure they’re going to have company there besides Saddam Hussein. Preferably the company of millions of fellow hot, sweaty homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/10 "2002-03-27T22:34:10Z")
I think the idea that homosexuals are trying to spread their lifestyle comes from the “beseiged” mentality that I see a lot of in the religious right. [fundie mode on] The idea is that we have the Truth™ but we are a small group of people, surrounded by iniquity, sin, and heresy, collectively, the Forces of Darkness™. We are the only ones who know how life should be lived. Since we know this, the world should change, but only the way we want it to. Any other changes are an example of the spreading influence of the Forces of Darkness, and must be despised. [fundie mode off] The end result is an organization which looks down on increased tolerance (since there’s only one right way to live), opposes social change (unless it’s legislation of their own creed), and grounds all it’s arguments in mystic or spiritual thought (only one source, though, since there’s only one truth)- in other words, the current religious right. ---
**Author:** ![Yumanite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b487fb/32.png) [@Yumanite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumanite)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/11 "2002-03-27T22:35:24Z")
Eh, I thought it had something to do with winning a toaster. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/12 "2002-03-27T22:59:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\* > > I’m not sure if your definition and my definition of “neo-conservative” mesh…I use “neo-conservative” to denote the breed of busybody Mrs. Grundys that have sprung up since the late 70s, conservatives who, rather than conserving the spirit of the Constitution, prefer to try to keep everybody from doing anything that might be in the least pleasurable.\*\* Oops. 🙂 That’s what a political science degree does…🙂 In modern US political philosophy, there’s a movement called the neo-conservative movement. Neo-conservatives (some prominent neo-cons have been Irving Kristol, David Horowitz, Pat Moynahan, Samuel Huntington, and Andrew Sullivan) tend to be former leftists who were strong anti-Communists and tend to advocate market solutions to social problems. They tend to be contrarian, and support small government, balanced budgets and an activist foreign policy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/13 "2002-03-27T23:10:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\* > > Oops. 🙂 That’s what a political science degree does…🙂 In modern US political philosophy, there’s a movement called the neo-conservative movement. Neo-conservatives (some prominent neo-cons have been Irving Kristol, David Horowitz, Pat Moynahan, Samuel Huntington, and Andrew Sullivan) tend to be former leftists who were strong anti-Communists and tend to advocate market solutions to social problems. They tend to be contrarian, and support small government, balanced budgets and an activist foreign policy. \*\* I actually used it in the intention of not tarring actual old-school Constitutional conservatives with the “right-wing loonie” brush. Maybe I should just call them right-wing loonies and skip the confusion. 🙂 jayjay ---
**Author:** ![untateve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@untateve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/untateve)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/14 "2002-03-28T01:59:43Z")
Why would gays want to “propagate their lifestyle”? It was a slow Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/15 "2002-03-28T02:14:04Z")
If I could recruit people into being gay, I’d dedicate my life to pulling Baptist preachers’ kids into the “lifestyle.” That would ruin their fathers’ day… 🙂 Kirk ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/16 "2002-03-28T04:04:33Z")
They _are_ recruiting! I read in [here](http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/homosexualrecruit.html). ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/17 "2002-03-28T05:05:22Z")
I’m not saying they ARE recruiting (and I’m not even sure how that might be done), but I could see that it would help homosexuality be more accepted if more people were gay. If it were possible, that would be pretty damn good reason to propagate a lifestyle. How you can get someone to be sexually attracted to the sex opposite of the one that they are already attracted to, I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/18 "2002-03-28T05:15:18Z")
They’ve got “breeder envy?” 🙂 \*\* > [@](#): > > Eh, I thought it had something to do with winning a toaster.\*\* Toaster _oven_, if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/19 "2002-03-28T05:24:01Z")
You cannot “convert” anyone to homosexuality. That’s just a lie spread by fundamentalist trash. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317/20 "2002-03-28T05:28:56Z")
I don’t _think_ it’s possible to convert a straight man to homosexuality, but give me an evening and a two-four of Sleeman’s and I’ll do my best. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-gays-want-to-propagate-their-lifestyle/100317.md?page=2)