# Why would god create drug-resistant bacteria?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 20, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241 "2014-06-20T20:35:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/1 "2014-06-20T20:35:27Z")

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I briefly had the thought today that evolution-deniers must believe that god is busy creating drug-resistant bacteria, but then I remembered that evolution-deniers are a wacky bunch and draw all kinds of Scostmen around everything. Macro-evolution is not micro-evolution, and mutations aren’t necessarily micro-evolution and all. But while I was googling around to see if anyone had addressed this argument, I found [this gem](https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/antibiotic-resistance/antibiotic-resistance-of-bacteria-evolution-in-action/):

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> Mutation and natural selection, thought to be the driving forces of evolution, only lead to a loss of functional systems. Therefore, antibiotic resistance of bacteria is not an example of evolution in action but rather variation within a bacterial kind. It is also a testimony to the wonderful design God gave bacteria, master adapters and survivors in a sin-cursed world.

So god IS creating drug-resistant bacteria! Because of sin, or something.

One free internet point to anyone who can make that make sense.

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/2 "2014-06-20T20:46:45Z")

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Blame the gays.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/3 "2014-06-20T20:54:14Z")

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God’s a cunt.

Please PM me my reward.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/4 "2014-06-20T21:17:28Z")

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“Why would God let humans create antibiotics?” cried the bacterium in a crisis of faith.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/5 "2014-06-20T21:19:36Z")

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God did not create drug-resistant bacteria. We did.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/6 "2014-06-20T21:54:18Z")

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He loves them more than he loves us.

“Blessed are the cheese makers” was not a mondegren.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/7 "2014-06-20T22:04:29Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> He loves them more than he loves us.

Other things he loves more than us: rats, beetles, bacteria… in fact all manner of insects and microorganisms. We’re just not that popular.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/8 "2014-06-20T22:04:33Z")

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[Actually His favorites are beetles](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/J._B._S._Haldane) (according to science).

The unreasonable success of _The Beatles_ was the the result of God himself falling victim to a mondegreen.

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/9 "2014-06-20T22:05:29Z")

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I’ve never understood the argument that God can’t exist because He would never have created all the vile parasitic wasps/pain & suffering in the world/drug-resistant bacteria. He after all supposedly created some supremely dastardly primates.

What’s wrong with just saying He’s a transparent ‘Eternal Proxy-Father’ construct? Settled.

Now let all the nations of the world unite to create our glorious Tower of Ba…er…Space Elevator!

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/10 "2014-06-20T22:26:20Z")

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God loves all manner of bacteria and viruses. He especially loves HIV because—well you know.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/11 "2014-06-20T22:43:35Z")

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Why would God create anything? Is he bored?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/12 "2014-06-21T03:06:57Z")

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> [@Staggerlee](#):
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> I’ve never understood the argument that God can’t exist because He would never have created all the vile parasitic wasps/pain & suffering in the world/drug-resistant bacteria.

Because belief in gods is all wish fulfillment in the first place, and most people don’t want to believe in an evil or amoral god. And the Christian god specifically is supposed to be omnibenevolent, and when most people in America or on this America-based board say “God” that’s the god they mean.

Therefore, arguing that something from nature is evil is a useful argument against them because they claim their god is perfectly benevolent, as well as all knowing and all powerful. Which means that any and all evil in the world must be planned and intended by their god.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/13 "2014-06-21T03:46:30Z")

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I believe the OP’s point is that for people who don’t believe in evolution, they must then think that god creates new strains of drug resistant bacteria, since evolution doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/14 "2014-06-21T03:54:07Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/15 "2014-06-21T09:26:30Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Why would God create anything? Is he bored?

Yup, essentially. God ain’t got no sensory input organs; consequently, He created trillions of unmanned probes to act as eyes, ears, taste buds, olfactory receptors, consciences, etc. Once a probe becomes unable to experience the Universe, all the data that it collected is uploaded into the Divine Consciousness for later review.

Which leads to the question: are you experiencing your life right now, or are you merely in playback mode?

😃

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/16 "2014-06-21T11:21:47Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Why would God create anything? Is he bored?

The devil made him do it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/17 "2014-06-21T16:03:27Z")

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He’s kind of meh on people; he really created them just to grow bacteria and we keep messing it all up.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/18 "2014-06-21T16:22:23Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> > Mutation and natural selection, thought to be the driving forces of evolution, only lead to a loss of functional systems. Therefore, antibiotic resistance of bacteria is not an example of evolution in action but rather variation within a bacterial kind. It is also a testimony to the wonderful design God gave bacteria, master adapters and survivors in a sin-cursed world.
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> One free internet point to anyone who can make that make sense.

I think what the quoted evolution-denier is saying is that they adapt, but do not evolve. How he or she is distinguishing between adaption and evolution is of course the next question.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/19 "2014-06-21T16:32:02Z")

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1963 - America removes prayer from public schools  
1967 - A study on various samples of salmonella found about 1/5 were resistant to at least one antibiotic.

Coincidence? I don’t think so. Moral of the story is if you don’t want to shit blood after eating a turkey sandwich you’d better put prayer back in school.

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-would-god-create-drug-resistant-bacteria/691241/20 "2014-06-24T06:35:21Z")

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**steronz:** I just want to say that I think that’s a brilliant arguing point. Really clever.

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