# Why WTC 7 Sabotaged

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649 "2010-09-13T20:39:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/81 "2010-09-15T00:14:13Z")

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The cowardly architect modeled the towers on himself, so each building was built without a spine.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/82 "2010-09-15T00:43:15Z")

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Huh…I never made the connection before (see, you DO learn a lot on this board!). Maybe the WTC Towers were giant insects? And maybe the government was actually trying to protect the citizens from an imminent invasion?? And…this is pure speculation, but it fits!..maybe a crusty old timer with a 5 o’clock shadow and a plucky young black guy were really responsible for saving the entire country (AND getting the girl!)???

I mean…it is all sort of coming together. Forget the wombats (mutant space or the normal kind)…this could all be about invertebrates!!!

(It could happen…or, maybe I need to take my own advice and up the voltage)

-XT (militant vertebrate since 1960 and proud of it!)

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/83 "2010-09-15T01:55:52Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > But there is no evidence showing there was a better explanation.
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> Well, there is, but you’re pretty stupid so you probably can’t see it.

Look dumbo. the circumstances were quite different, yet the results were the same. That is an indication of poorly designed or poorly built structures. No it is not a suggestion of a conspiracy. But the builders seem to have floated out of this fiasco with little or no damage. They should have major castigation. Where are the lawsuits against the builders?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/84 "2010-09-15T02:21:35Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Where are the lawsuits against the builders?

WTC7.

Duh :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/85 "2010-09-15T03:05:30Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Huh…I never made the connection before (see, you DO learn a lot on this board!). Maybe the WTC Towers were giant insects? And maybe the government was actually trying to protect the citizens from an imminent invasion?? And…this is pure speculation, but it fits!..maybe a crusty old timer with a 5 o’clock shadow and a plucky young black guy were really responsible for saving the entire country (AND getting the girl!)???

I would wait for Netflix, but I would watch this. Be better if there’s at least one gratuitous nude scene with the girl (who has to be hot).

Edited to add: Depending on the girl and assuming the nudity is full frontal, you might even get the price of a movie ticket out of me.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/86 "2010-09-15T03:14:15Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Look dumbo. the circumstances were quite different, yet the results were the same. That is an indication of poorly designed or poorly built structures. … Where are the lawsuits against the builders?

At the local hospital, a patient was brought in after a car crash and died. A few days, later a person had been shot was brought in and died. Different circumstances, yet the same outcome. Clearly the ER staff is incompetent and needs to be vigorously sued.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/87 "2010-09-15T04:02:37Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Bunnies! I’m sure it was bunnies!

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Bunnies aren’t cute like everybody supposes !  
They’ve got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !  
And what’s with all the carrots ?  
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?  
Bunnies, bunnies, it must be BUNNIIIIIIIIIES !  
\*

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/88 "2010-09-15T04:22:42Z")

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\*And when I get up early in the morning to go out to the chicken house to feed my little tiny baby chickens  
oh those crazy little bunnies they follow on after me just hop hop hop hop hop hop hopping like the dickens.

Here chickee chickee chickee chickee get away from me bunny you bother me. Get out of here you crazy little bunnies\*

You wanna [buy](http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=1026) a bunny?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/89 "2010-09-15T06:11:48Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Look dumbo. the circumstances were quite different, yet the results were the same. That is an indication of poorly designed or poorly built structures. … Where are the lawsuits against the builders?
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> At the local hospital, a patient was brought in after a car crash and died. A few days, later a person had been shot was brought in and died. Different circumstances, yet the same outcome. Clearly the ER staff is incompetent and needs to be vigorously sued.

That analogy totally failed.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/90 "2010-09-15T06:14:51Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> That analogy totally failed.

How so? Please, share with us your wisdom, and explain why **42fish** ’s story bears no relation to your own complaint.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/91 "2010-09-15T06:40:57Z")

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Actually there was a law suit which hit the court in 2009. The insurance company found that the diesel fuel tanks had been cited for safety problems in 1998 and 1999. The had storage tanks with 40,000 gallons on the 23rd floor. Bldg 7 had been reinforced so it could eliminate floors if leasees had wanted them to.  
The judge found the design and construction were not factors in the drop of the bldg but it rewarded only 10 percent of the money the owners asked for.  
But the insurance company invested a lot of money in court because they thought the design and construction was flawed. The judge said they were not but he did slash the amount rewarded tremendously.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/92 "2010-09-15T06:48:31Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Actually there was a law suit which hit the court in 2009. The insurance company found that the diesel fuel tanks had been cited for safety problems in 1998 and 1999. The had storage tanks with 40,000 gallons on the 23rd floor.

Fueling trucks on the 23rd floor? That is very suspicious.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/93 "2010-09-15T07:43:25Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The WTC towers “collapsed” due to lack of fiber. They were massively [obstipated](http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/16/obstipation128607195082217231.jpg) and blew out at their weakest point.
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> They don’t want you to know.

Quite frankly, if that would be the case, _I_ wouldn’t want to know.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/94 "2010-09-15T09:05:21Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> It was the cables. WTC 7 was only held up by cables attached to 1 & 2. As soon as the zombie wombat pirates, and kopek, pulled down 1 & 2 at the behest of Illuminati, Rosicrucians, and Brits, to get at the stockpile of orichalcum and gold that was hiding Obamas birth certificate, WTC 7 simply fell over. That distracted everybody from noticing that Saddam Hussein carted off WTC 8 which contained the weapons of mass destruction. Then Bush erased all records of WTC 8 while he was trying to change the channel on the TV with the nuclear football, which had luckily been replaced with a magic wand pointing device by the neo-cons at Dick Cheney’s behest. That’s why Hillary Clinton and John Kerry told Colin Powell to tell all those lies to the UN, the evidence that Saddam had WMDs was accidentally erased. We’ll never be able to prove it now, because we’ve withdrawn all troops from Iraq, and we’ll never find where Saddam hid WTC 8. This couldn’t be more obvious.

I’ve heard stupider theories.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/95 "2010-09-15T13:38:37Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Actually there was a law suit which hit the court in 2009. The insurance company found that the diesel fuel tanks had been cited for safety problems in 1998 and 1999. The had storage tanks with 40,000 gallons on the 23rd floor.
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> Fueling trucks on the 23rd floor? That is very suspicious.

Not suspicious at all. But strange . It would require an explanation. Logically they should have been on floor 1 or the basement. They must have had a reason to build huge storage tanks in the middle of the bldg.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/96 "2010-09-15T13:52:29Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> > [@TriPolar](#):
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> > Fueling trucks on the 23rd floor? That is very suspicious.
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> Not suspicious at all. But strange . It would require an explanation. Logically they should have been on floor 1 or the basement. They must have had a reason to build huge storage tanks in the middle of the bldg.

Mid-air refueling for passenger planes. So very nearly genius.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/97 "2010-09-15T15:00:59Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Not suspicious at all. But strange . It would require an explanation. Logically they should have been on floor 1 or the basement. They must have had a reason to build huge storage tanks in the middle of the bldg.
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> Mid-air refueling for passenger planes. So very nearly genius.

First guess would be that it’d be for generators. Just my guess though.

Maybe Steophan is right and it was actually just a really badly botched landing.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/98 "2010-09-15T15:31:17Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Actually there was a law suit which hit the court in 2009. The insurance company found that the diesel fuel tanks had been cited for safety problems in 1998 and 1999. The had storage tanks with 40,000 gallons on the 23rd floor. Bldg 7 had been reinforced so it could eliminate floors if leasees had wanted them to.  
> The judge found the design and construction were not factors in the drop of the bldg but it rewarded only 10 percent of the money the owners asked for.  
> But the insurance company invested a lot of money in court because they thought the design and construction was flawed. The judge said they were not but he did slash the amount rewarded tremendously.

There were no tanks or fuel on the 23rd floor. The highest fuel was a 50 gallon tank on the 9th floor. There was a 6,000 gallon tank on the 1st floor, and 4 tanks totalling 36,000 gallons buried outside of the building.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/99 "2010-09-15T15:48:24Z")

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> [@yoyodyne](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Actually there was a law suit which hit the court in 2009. The insurance company found that the diesel fuel tanks had been cited for safety problems in 1998 and 1999. The had storage tanks with 40,000 gallons on the 23rd floor. Bldg 7 had been reinforced so it could eliminate floors if leasees had wanted them to.  
> > The judge found the design and construction were not factors in the drop of the bldg but it rewarded only 10 percent of the money the owners asked for.  
> > But the insurance company invested a lot of money in court because they thought the design and construction was flawed. The judge said they were not but he did slash the amount rewarded tremendously.
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> There were no tanks or fuel on the 23rd floor. The highest fuel was a 50 gallon tank on the 9th floor. There was a 6,000 gallon tank on the 1st floor, and 4 tanks totalling 36,000 gallons buried outside of the building.

I have been reading a lot on it lately. Some articles make the claim there were. I do not know. But it was a storage for emergency fuel.  
If they were not high, then how could they be a big contributor to the fires? The fires started high in the building. Why did they not burn out? Apparently the sprinkler system failed too.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wtc-7-sabotaged/553649/100 "2010-09-15T16:40:58Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Not suspicious at all. But strange . It would require an explanation. Logically they should have been on floor 1 or the basement. They must have had a reason to build huge storage tanks in the middle of the bldg.
> 
> Mid-air refueling for passenger planes. So very nearly genius.

Or Zeppelins! We’ll see them in the World of Tomorrow!

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