# Why you shouldn't use somebody for $100,000

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 14, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054 "2009-09-14T17:42:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/1 "2009-09-14T17:42:35Z")

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We have a woman accepting thousands in cash each month from a guy, and she quits her jobs and asks for more money when she wants it. That’s definitely the definition of a kept woman, and nothing is free honey. The guy eventually wants something in return like a relationship. She doesn’t want that. He decides to do something to her so she will be grateful as he comes to her aid as she recovers. Both people suck in this story.

[Man accused of plotting mayhem to win woman’s love.](http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/59142107.html)

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/2 "2009-09-14T17:50:51Z")

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There’s a winner!

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/3 "2009-09-14T17:55:46Z")

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Ah, the guy is from Cudahy!  
Why does this not surprise me?

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**Author:** ![Brainiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@Brainiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/4 "2009-09-14T17:58:29Z")

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Chicks dig mayhem.

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**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/5 "2009-09-14T18:08:04Z")

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> In custody, Dominguez told police he was depressed by how his relationships with women had gone since high school. He said he often wondered “what’s wrong with me.”

Well, for starters, sweetie, you could comb your hair and do something with that dumb-looking goatee. Oh, and you could try NOT being a freaky psycho stalker mahem instigator, that’s kind of a turn-off.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/6 "2009-09-14T20:19:42Z")

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Take note, guys who always whine “how come no girls like me”: it’s probably because you’re a total creeper like this asshole.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/7 "2009-09-14T20:30:17Z")

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Ah the classic disfigure then declare ‘No man will want you (but me)’ ploy. He didn’t have any acid to throw, I guess?

This doesn’t mean the Nigerian prince I’m involved with is going to… _want_ something from me, does it?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/8 "2009-09-14T21:51:30Z")

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Do all welders make that much money?

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/9 "2009-09-14T22:07:24Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Do all welders make that much money?

That was my first thought - that guy doesn’t look like the kind of person who has $100,000. Man must be a welding fiend.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/10 "2009-09-14T22:50:55Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Do all welders make that much money?

> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> That was my first thought - that guy doesn’t look like the kind of person who has $100,000. Man must be a welding fiend.

Welding can be lucrative if you’re in a union, in a high-demand area, or licensed to weld exotic materials\*. If you fulfill two or more of those conditions, then you can become rather wealthy. To become a licensed welder, you have to do a fair amount of training and become licensed, and many people with the academic skills to become licensed prefer not to work manual labor. So there’s always a bit of a shortage of good welders.

\*Basic steel-to-steel is pretty easy- I can do that, and I learned in a friend’s barn when I was 16. Aluminum or titanium is quite difficult and requires specialized equipment, and all hell breaks loose when you’re talking about underwater construction. I’ve heard of people earning more than $60,000 for less than a month’s work, occasionally up to six figures or more. Welders on the Alaska Pipeline were also extremely well-paid.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/11 "2009-09-15T02:53:57Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Take note, guys who always whine “how come no girls like me”: it’s probably because you’re a total creeper like this asshole.

Nah, he just didn’t have enough money. If he had millions, he would be a charming eccentric. With merely thousands, he is a creepo stalker.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/12 "2009-09-15T04:14:11Z")

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She hasn’t exactly behaved beautifully either. She takes $100,000 from the guy and returns nothing? He may be dumb but she is short of a few morals.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/13 "2009-09-15T05:21:12Z")

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What would you do if, every week, someone sent you a check for $2000, along with a note that said:

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> Cicero, please accept this money as my gift. No strings attached. You are just such a terrific Cicero that you deserve it, and I can spare it.

Would it be morally different if it was your grandfather sending the money? Or someone else, with whom marriage or sex wasn’t even implicitly on the table?

I’m not saying she’s Mother Teresa here (actually, Mother Teresa wouldn’t return the money either, I’d bet). But I am saying it would be real easy to rationalize taking the money.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/14 "2009-09-15T06:25:34Z")

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As both my grandfathers are long dead I would be very surprised if they gave anything over- however they could possibly be passing something to Mother Teresa.

To return to the story as outlined above however, I can’t see anywhere that it indicates that he was in a position to shell out that much money. Just accepting that much money from someone without evidence of how they obtained it is in my mind morally wrong- he could have been lifting it from his employers. And towards the end of the article it does state that she was asking for money.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/15 "2009-09-15T06:33:51Z")

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The secret to success for this guy would have been to stop being so loose with his money. She’d quit her job, was dependant on him for the rent & utilities. All he had to do was start holding back a little, and I bet she would have worked for it.

ummm…is that a bad thing to say?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/16 "2009-09-15T06:44:32Z")

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It also doesn’t say she knew anything about his financial situation – nor do we, really. So he was a welder – we’re just assuming his money came from welding jobs. He could have inherited a substantial sum from a family member, and chose to spend it on her rather than hookers and blow. I inherited more than 50K when my father died – he never had a higher paying job than security guard – and it would have been a lot more if I didn’t have siblings who got equal shares.

And if I see someone spending lots of money, I assume they came by it honestly unless I know better. And most people have absolutely no way of knowing the source of someone else’s money other than to ask – and then what? How many people are going to tell you about their criminal enterprise? No, they will have some plausible story that you pretty much have to take at face value.

But to say you won’t take money unless you know the source of it is crazy talk. My employer is a hospital. I assume the money is come by legitimately, but for all I _really_ know, they could be scamming Medicare for millions. I don’t believe it, but I don’t know it as a verifiable fact. And yes, they produce an annual financial report, but so what? So did Bernie Madoff.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/17 "2009-09-15T06:45:52Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> The secret to success for this guy would have been to stop being so loose with his money. She’d quit her job, was dependant on him for the rent & utilities. All he had to do was start holding back a little, and I bet she would have worked for it.
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> ummm…is that a bad thing to say?

Not at all. It’s a variation of, “Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?”

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/18 "2009-09-15T07:18:53Z")

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And for a lot of women in Beverly Hills, this guy would be just perfect. Compared to Kevin Federline, he’s golden.

Hell, for $100,000 I’d do him.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/19 "2009-09-15T10:49:01Z")

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Anybody that takes money like this woman did, should be waiting for the other shoe to drop. Don’t act like a woman taking $100,000 shouldn’t know what she’s doing leads to there being something to pay off at some point. I also don’t care about where an employer gets their money that they pay you. That is getting way the hell away from anything relevant to this particular case. The women isn’t related so it’s not a generous relative. He was a man she hardly knew just giving her money. This is about a woman that thinks nothing bad can happen when you are being kept, and a guy that decided to injure and come to the rescue of the victim. Userous woman meets dangerous maladjusted man.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-somebody-for-100-000/510054/20 "2009-09-15T12:52:50Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Take note, guys who always whine “how come no girls like me”: it’s probably because you’re a total creeper like this asshole.

Please tell me you’re joking. Otherwise, that’s really fucking offensive.

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