# Wiki links: "Pages for logged out editors learn more" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 25, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807 "2023-01-25T22:34:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/1 "2023-01-25T22:34:45Z")
The past few days, every time I’ve seen a link to Wikipedia on this board, the linkbox that shows up has this text at the start of it. For instance, in the [space elevator thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-to-a-broken-space-elevator/978350/36), a link to suspension bridges says > [@](#): > > Pages for logged out editors learn more A suspension bridge is a type of bridge… Is anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? If it’s just me, then I can’t imagine why, as I am not and never have been a Wikipedia editor. And even if I were, you’d think that the “learn more” bit would be a link, but it’s not. Is this a recent change in Wikipedia’s formatting, or something? Here’s a live example of that link (though, like I said, it seems to happen with every Wikipedia link): > **[Suspension bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_bridge)** > > A suspension bridge is a type of bridge in which the deck is hung below suspension cables on vertical suspenders. The first modern examples of this type of bridge were built in the early 1800s. Simple suspension bridges, which lack vertical suspenders, have a long history in many mountainous parts of the world. > Besides the bridge type most commonly called suspension bridges, covered in this article, there are other types of suspension bridges. The type covered here has cables suspended betwee... ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/2 "2023-01-25T22:38:57Z")
Looks fine to me. . [![](https://i.imgur.com/QAUGYia.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/QAUGYia.png) ETA, nevermind, it doesn’t look fine. I was thinking the “Pages for logged out editors learn more” was what you were seeing instead of the correct text. I missed that it’s prefacing it. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/3 "2023-01-25T22:48:27Z")
I’m seeing the “Pages for logged out editors learn more” also. [https://i.imgur.com/SsLSy3A.png](https://i.imgur.com/SsLSy3A.png) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/4 "2023-01-25T23:08:26Z")
Yes, both of those images are what I’m seeing. Well, not with the same color scheme that @Joey_P is using, but I presume that’s either a browser or a board setting. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/5 "2023-01-25T23:11:58Z")
Yes, I am seeing that all over the place, and not just on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/6 "2023-01-26T01:46:20Z")
I’ve been seengin the same thing for aweek or two. I forget exactlywhen it started, btu it’s been consistent ever since whatever day that was. Looking directly at their pages now, it appears to be an artifact of the recent major changes wiki has made to their look and feel. Something is formatted dumb that’s fooling the Discourse preview parser. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/7 "2023-01-26T03:00:53Z")
I think that the content of those linkboxes is generated by the source page, not Discourse at all, so the “Discourse preview parser” isn’t what’s getting fooled. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/8 "2023-01-26T03:06:43Z")
EDIT: _Never mind, I just repeated what you have already said_ ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/9 "2023-01-26T04:09:47Z")
It appears that the new default Wikipedia skin (Vector 2022) is putting this text at the start of every page that is accessed by a non-logged-in user: ```auto

Pages for logged out editors learn more

``` This text is initially hidden (by some CSS I guess) but appears if you click the three-dot icon at the top right of the page. The Discourse preview tool apparently is not seeing that it is hidden text and is rendering it in the preview. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/10 "2023-01-26T12:54:29Z")
When they switched to the new layout I installed a FF extension that replaces URLs to wiki with a URL, also to wiki, but with the original Vector layout. So that link in the OP goes to “en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Suspension\_bridge”, if I click on it, it takes me to “en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Suspension\_bridge?useskin=vector” FWIW, that extension doesn’t seem to have any effect on this problem. Whether that means both layouts have this problem or if the extension doesn’t ‘fix’ the problem in the preview, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/11 "2023-01-26T15:14:38Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think that the content of those linkboxes is generated by the source page, not Discourse at all, so the “Discourse preview parser” isn’t what’s getting fooled. Yes and no. As best I can determine, and I’d be happy to have a current webdev expert weigh in. Discourse generates the preview box using various landmarks on the page identified via either HTML element name/ID or css class or aria class or … According to an unofficial web standard many websites adhere to. If the landmarks are absent Discourse presents a box with just the URL along with some text along the lines of “A preview can’t be generated.” If something about the landmarks aren’t quite in compliance with the unofficial standard, then Discourse might get confused and put stuff in, or leave stuff out of, the preview box. IMO this is what’s happening w the new wiki skin. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/12 "2023-01-26T16:02:28Z")
Reported it over at the Wikipedia village pump. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/13 "2023-01-26T19:07:28Z")
It’s now being looked at here: [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328046](https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328046) I do not have the technical skill to follow any discussion over there, but I’m sure some of you smart computer folk can! ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/14 "2023-01-26T19:10:52Z")
Following Joey\_P’s lead, this is the link with ?useskin=vector added. Could be a solution for a board of nerds but maybe not for a board of senior citizens. > **[Suspension bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_bridge?useskin=vector)** > > A suspension bridge is a type of bridge in which the deck is hung below suspension cables on vertical suspenders. The first modern examples of this type of bridge were built in the early 1800s. Simple suspension bridges, which lack vertical suspenders, have a long history in many mountainous parts of the world. > Besides the bridge type most commonly called suspension bridges, covered in this article, there are other types of suspension bridges. The type covered here has cables suspended betwee... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wiki-links-pages-for-logged-out-editors-learn-more/978807/15 "2023-01-27T00:09:41Z")
Hey! I’m neither a nerd nor a senior citizen! The correct term is « techno-peasant », thank you very much! 🧐