# Wild, crazy, hot Orthodox Jews **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693 "2015-09-27T14:24:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/1 "2015-09-27T14:24:25Z")
An Orthodox woman, under the pen name Shosha Pearl, is [writing erotic stories](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/25/how-orthodox-women-sell-hot-jewish-sex.html) that are in harmony with Jewish law. Another invented a kosher sex toy. Why should secular people have all the fun? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/2 "2015-09-27T15:05:26Z")
…why? I mean, the point of erotic fiction is to arouse erotic feeling. Is there someone out there who is more aroused by erotica that conforms to Jewish law? …then again, forget I asked. In a world where people buy erotic fiction involving dinosaurs, anything is possible. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/3 "2015-09-27T16:05:11Z")
Why not? There’s a market. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/4 "2015-09-27T16:08:56Z")
[It’s been done before.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Songs) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/5 "2015-09-27T16:13:04Z")
A kosher sex toy? I thought the Orthodox couldnt mix meat with cheese? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/6 "2015-09-27T16:21:04Z")
About nine months ago, The New York Times Magazine ran an [article](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/magazine/the-orthodox-sex-guru.html) about a woman who works as a sex therapist with strictly Orthodox Jewish women, who have very little or no sex education and have no idea that sex can be fun and pleasurable. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/7 "2015-09-27T16:35:50Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > [It’s been done before.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_Songs) Oh, Thudlow, boinketh me! Oh, your throbbing _payess_! Oh, I’m a dirty shiksa! I wanna go to MIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMI!!! Something like _that_? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/8 "2015-09-27T17:52:09Z")
What makes a sex toy, “Kosher”? I shudder to ask. (We all know various things which make it **not** Kosher, ;)) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/9 "2015-09-28T01:14:18Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > What makes a sex toy, “Kosher”? I shudder to ask. > > (We all know various things which make it **not** Kosher, ;)) Look, I’m sure the best cuts of meat already have a defined market, but maybe there are parts that… umm… don’t sell so well…? Of course I have no idea if the decision to make a toy happens before or after the bolt gun. What, you thought they stitched it together, put it on an operating table, and raised it to the roof during a lightning storm? Do you think any woman Really wants a “Franken-Peenie”!? “Honey, Look! I bought you a gift…!” “Why is the box shaking…?” ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/10 "2015-09-28T01:57:14Z")
In a somewhat similar vein, there was a recent New Yorker article about Chinese merchants who sell lingerie in Egypt. They sell very sexy underwear to very religious women, who often come into the stores wearing a burkha or similar. The only person who ever gets to see the woman in the expensive lingerie is her husband. ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/11 "2015-09-28T02:10:45Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > In a somewhat similar vein, there was a recent New Yorker article about Chinese merchants who sell lingerie in Egypt. They sell very sexy underwear to very religious women, who often come into the stores wearing a burkha or similar. **The only person who ever gets to see the woman in the expensive lingerie is her husband**. And in more secular countries we of course invite all of our friends over for the weekly underwear viewing… no? :dubious: “Wow, I really love your new sexy corset honey, can’t wait until we get to show everyone”. That’ll go over well. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/12 "2015-09-28T02:31:01Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > What makes a sex toy, “Kosher”? I shudder to ask. > > (We all know various things which make it **not** Kosher, ;)) coffeecat’s link has an explanation. About midway through the page. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/13 "2015-09-28T02:32:29Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > In a somewhat similar vein, there was a recent New Yorker article about Chinese merchants who sell lingerie in Egypt. They sell very sexy underwear to very religious women, who often come into the stores wearing a burkha or similar. The only person who ever gets to see the woman in the expensive lingerie is her husband. My mom visited Egypt, and said she saw a lot of sexy outfits issue private homes. ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/14 "2015-09-28T02:35:47Z")
This is one of those threads where you get really disappointed after you click it and realize there are no pictures. Just saying. But we really do need to know what makes a sex toy kosher or un-kosher. Someone get a rabbi please. Won’t be able to sleep until this is cleared up. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/15 "2015-09-28T04:24:00Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > …why? > > I mean, the point of erotic fiction is to arouse erotic feeling. Is there someone out there who is more aroused by erotica that conforms to Jewish law? > > …then again, forget I asked. In a world where people buy erotic fiction involving dinosaurs, anything is possible. Probably the forbidden element of it, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/16 "2015-09-28T05:06:22Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > What makes a sex toy, “Kosher”? I shudder to ask. Nothing. Kosher, or the laws of kashrut, apply only to food, and products relating to the production or consumption of food. Using kosher in this context is like calling a sex toy gluten-free or an erotica story (in which no one eats anything) vegetarian. In this context it seems like a horribly chosen, goyische way of saying that the toy is halachally acceptable which means, generally, that it doesn’t enable sexual practices that are forbidden, sex between unmarried people, habits that replace married sex, or ejaculation outside of a vagina. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/17 "2015-09-28T05:22:51Z")
Multi-quote failed, and I forgot that I wanted to answer this. > [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > …why? > > I mean, the point of erotic fiction is to arouse erotic feeling. Is there someone out there who is more aroused by erotica that conforms to Jewish law? It’s the same reason why there’s erotica in every culture and subculture, and featuring characters and practices specific to every culture and subculture. To a large extent the pleasure of erotica is in the imagining, and familiarity enhances the ability to imagine. Characters who are like you, who live like you, do things that make innate sense to you, and who you can therefore easily imagine _are_ you connect with erotica readers. I’m not Orthodox (I wouldn’t be posting tonight, it’s a holiday!) or married, but I know the taharas ha mishpacha practices, and I’m a writer, and I can easily imagine how a sense of anticipation and excitement could be created by describing the main character walking home from the mikveh on a cold winter night, enduring the task and the weather for the _specific_ purpose of having sex with a loving husband who’s at home, anxiously awaiting her arrival. That’s some heady stuff, much more so if you’ve lived it and know that cold walk, and the emotions that go along. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/18 "2015-09-28T05:32:39Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > In a somewhat similar vein, there was a recent New Yorker article about Chinese merchants who sell lingerie in Egypt. They sell very sexy underwear to very religious women, who often come into the stores wearing a burkha or similar. . As a former resident of Cairo, I can attest to the fact that lingerie, from cheap to fine, is on display in every mall and market. It’s quite striking if you are not used to seeing lingerie-o-rama everywhere you look. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/19 "2015-09-28T06:04:48Z")
Anyone ever see the _Curb Your Enthusiasm_ about Orthodox Jews and the hole in the sheets? ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693/20 "2015-09-28T07:57:02Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > In a somewhat similar vein, there was a recent New Yorker article about Chinese merchants who sell lingerie in Egypt. They sell very sexy underwear to very religious women, who often come into the stores wearing a burkha or similar. The only person who ever gets to see the woman in the expensive lingerie is her husband. Hey, I’m not religious at all, and yet still, the only person who ever gets to see me in my sexy lingerie is my husband. On a related note, I remember reading about an online retailer who sent a whole bunch of very sexy shoes off to some place, shoes in various sizes and styles, but pretty much all stiletto heeled. And the recipients turned out to be nuns. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wild-crazy-hot-orthodox-jews/732693.md?page=2)