# Wildest Bill, go fuck yourself

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2000, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445 "2000-10-10T18:41:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![DavisMcDavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DavisMcDavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavisMcDavis)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/41 "2000-10-11T21:34:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*  
> **DavisMcDavis, thanks for the support, but may I clarify - I do not consider myself “The Gay Guy” beyond just an identifying moniker (and a cute li’l nickname). I specifically state so in the OP of all three ATGG threads. I’m merely one person’s experience, with a little bit of research and a lot of other gay folks to back me up. I never claimed to be anything else but.**

I know you’re not THE gay - I was just referring to one of Margaret Cho’s endlessly repeated jokes about her mother asking her, in reference to one of her friends:

“Margalet, is he da GAY?”

“No, Mom, he’s not THE gay. There’s not like, just one gay. He doesn’t do the parade all by himself…”

My attempt to slip a joke in there that you’d get but Bill wouldn’t. Turns out neither of you did, so I guess that means I wasn’t funny. Hate it when that happens.

Oh, and about **bold** and not bold and _italics_. I was under the impression WB might not know about the codes that you need to stick in there [_B_] BOLD WORD [\_/_B_] afterwards (no underscores for the real thing) - isn’t that what you’re asking, Bill?

There’s probably a primer of some sort in the “about this message board” board, isn’t there? And I’m on an Imac using Netscape, and bold doesn’t actually show up here. I don’t know if that’s Netscape or what, but that might be contributing to the problem.

Esprix’s tips on quote marks are good ones. Since we’re giving grammar lessons, I’ll add mine - and these are directed sorta at Bill (in a friendly and constructive way, I should add), but anyone else feel free to listen in since we’re in the Pit and people who misuse these bug the hell out of me :

You’re - contraction for “you are”  
Ex. - “You’re so silly, Rhino!”

Your - belonging to you  
Ex. - “Pick up your clothes.”

It’s - contraction for “it is”  
Ex. “It’s raining men!”

Its (no apostrophe) - belonging to “it”  
Ex. - “The dog lost its collar.”

They are actually four separate and distinct words with different meanings, not two words that have four meanings.  
I understand that can be confusing, as usually one adds an apostrophe to show posession, except you don’t in the case of “its”. That’s why it’s tricky, but with proper practice it becomes second nature.

Next week’s lesson:  
Me, Myself, and I - Three more words that are not interchangeable.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/42 "2000-10-11T22:45:27Z")

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> Now here’s all the things you didn’t win…

" . . . a twenty-volume set of the _Encyclopedia International_, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year’s supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco treat!"

-D. Pardo

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2000, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/43 "2000-10-11T22:51:48Z")

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As long as it wasn’t a big dictionary or grammer made easy book for grammer dummies I didn’t miss out. 😉 😃

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/44 "2000-10-12T00:04:19Z")

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Grammar!!! Goddamnit it is GRAMMAR!!!

And please, go and buy yourself a grammar book. Or if as possibly can be construed from your last post, you already own one, read and use the fucking thing!

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/45 "2000-10-12T00:27:23Z")

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Yeah, and maybe you can get your gram’mer and grampa to buy it for ya!

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Yer pal,  
Satan - Commissioner, [The Teeming Minions](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/full/show?lid=39428&page=leaguehome)

_TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:  
Six months, two days, 22 hours, 27 minutes and 55 seconds.  
7437 cigarettes not smoked, saving $929.68.  
Extra time with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 45 minutes._

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**Author:** ![absoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@absoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absoul)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/46 "2000-10-12T01:45:34Z")

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Don’t fill up on grammar crackers, dinner is almost ready.

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**Author:** ![absoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@absoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absoul)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/47 "2000-10-12T01:50:31Z")

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Sorry could not help the previous post…  
Dammit!!! I have had to go through and read his posts. (morbid curiousity) Damn You.  
This one is the best… ‘it is a classic’

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41711](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41711)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/48 "2000-10-12T02:02:27Z")

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Wildest Bill-Get off your cross-somebody needs the wood.  
(TM my friend Zae).

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/49 "2000-10-12T13:46:25Z")

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Oh, and let’s not forget the Christian who openly admits to favoring discrimination against homosexuals… :rolleyes:

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/50 "2000-10-12T14:03:49Z")

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Wait, add we’re allowed to discriminate against lawyers (because, you know, they’re all _scum_ and all).

Yeah, _you’re_ the epitome of Christ-like behavior… :rolleyes:

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/51 "2000-10-12T15:04:03Z")

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I’m still thinking about Wildest Bill’s accusation that Esprix has an “infactuation.”

As a word, I like it. It has a lof of potential.

“Infactuation - a strong compulsion to have your facts straight before shooting off your mouth.”

Seems like a quality worthy of emulation, doesn’t it WB?

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/52 "2000-10-12T15:08:33Z")

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I’ve been gone a few days, so things might have changed, but my interactions/observations with/of the Wild Guy usually go as follows:

1. **Wildest Bill** makes a moronic and almost illegible opening statement;
2. Several people flame him;
3. One or two posters respond seriously to him;
4. **Wildest Bill** actually listens and responds to the serious posts, and often expresses respect for the opposing POV. Of course, his responses still show a complete contempt for the concept of grammar.

Do I agree with him? No. Do I want my daughter to date him? Hell no! Do I want to take a dictionary and shove it up his ass? Absolutely. Is he a fuckwad? I don’t think so.

Sua

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2000, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/53 "2000-10-12T15:59:57Z")

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Originally posted by SuaSponte

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> Do I agree with him? No.

Not ever? What if I said the sky was blue sometimes? 😉

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> Do I want my daughter to date him? Hell no!

IRL I am a real charming fellow are you sure? 😃 Besides my wife would get half or should I say she would get half of whats was left over after the lawyers get theirs.

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> Do I want to take a dictionary and shove it up his ass? Absolutely.

Are you saying I talk out of my butt like Ace Ventura does? 😃

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> Is he a fuckwad? I don’t think so.

Thanks Sue.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/54 "2000-10-13T07:30:16Z")

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Esprix:

Wildest Bill is the type of cretin who feeds off of this kind of attention. I’m sure he’s stroking his ego so fast over this he’s just spraying everything like a cat in heat.  
I understand your annoyance with him and dolts like him.  
I’ve had to suffer tradesilicon and a few others who just love to be dickhead advocates and make absurd claims just so they can attempt to feel superior even though they still haven’t been able to grow an opposable thumb. Some people cannot be chastised with a strong, well supported argument, or with the most scathing of flames. Say what you want, but remember that it probably won’t stick. For it to stick, his mind would have to be open and he’d have to hear you. All he can hear is himself, and what a hideous thing that must be to listen to. I think it would be like listening to Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Laura fucking.

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**Author:** ![headshok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@headshok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/headshok)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/55 "2000-10-13T08:43:08Z")

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> _Originally posted by Hastur_  
> I think it would be like listening to Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Laura fucking.

Oh, man. I wish you hadn’t said that.

_…must…erase…mental…image…_

On the subject of WB, I don’t want to sound like a “dickhead advocate”, but I’ve met a number of people like him where I work (it must be something in the water around here). Most of them are pretty decent folk, but they are simply not used to diversity of background/lifestyle/opinion, and often have no idea how offensive some of the things that they say can be to others.

Of course, some of them are racist, homophobic, hate-filled assholes, too. But IMHO, I don’t think WB fits into that category. I think his statements, ridiculous as they often are, arise more out of ignorance than hatred. He appears to have taken some of the criticism directed at him to heart (regarding his terrible grammar, at least). Maybe the other comments will eventually have an impact, too.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/56 "2000-10-13T15:01:50Z")

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After posting a _wonderful_ thread in the “Fuck lawyers if they can’t take a joke” thread and him _totally_ missing the point… yeah, I’m done.

{washing hands}

He can hoist himself on his own petard from now on - needs no help from me.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/57 "2000-10-13T17:17:27Z")

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For Esprix’s sake (and the rest of us), I hope that WB doesn’t start to feel like he’s being bullied here.

He bragged in the IMHO bully thread that as a kid, he went after 4 bullies with a gun. Even included a smilie. I hope he was just trying to fit in after we explained Ender Wiggin to him, but…

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2000, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-go-fuck-yourself/36445/58 "2000-10-13T17:31:08Z")

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Well, Ender **did** have something to do with exterminating the “buggers,” if I remember the plot correctly. But I don’t think we want to go there! 😉

Just for the record, Orson Scott Card is a Mormon – which may or may not be ironic in view of the Pit threads 'Sprix has going these days! 😃

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