# Wildest Bill Yet AGAIN!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389 "2001-09-28T21:40:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/41 "2001-09-29T01:23:09Z")
Varlos: You’re correct. Commas and other diacriticals are not his strong suit. BTW, I do believe I’ll scream the next time I see “y’all” spelled “ya’ll.” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/42 "2001-09-29T01:26:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Maeglin \* > \*\ ***Nostradamus** , no one appreciates a condescending pedant. \*\* Yah mean, like Cecil? I really enjoy condscending pedants. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/43 "2001-09-29T01:36:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*Pepperland, > > I don’t your sig fits me to a T. NOBODY has ever called me boring in my life and my mother use to call me “_charmin_ Billy”. \*\* Perhaps she was anticipating a time when so many folks would want to wipe their asses with you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/44 "2001-09-29T02:07:17Z")
Oh Gawd! Now we know what his real problem is. His momma done went & called him cute & he never got over it. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/45 "2001-09-29T02:08:52Z")
> [@](#): > > This comment itself is one of the more vicious attacks I’ve read here. I’d go out out on a limb and say it is inherently offensive and it has crossed a line. > > I’m not condemning Maeglin’s outrage, but that’s not exactly a very Christian thing to say either. > > All I’m saying is that if you want to do something about Wildest Bill’s monumental ignorance, pulling mom-judo isn’t a very valid method of arguing. You’re only sinking to his level. Dude, are you reading what I am writing? I harbor no outrage whatsoever. Hence my questioning of the necessity of this pit thread. Recall I said that I was dealing with him just fine. So I tossed off a gratuitous insult. Big fucking deal. I ain’t a Christian. I **an** dealing with Bill’s monumental ignorance in GD. Perhaps you should consult the thread. And I am offended by the accusation that I am sinking to his level. My level is considerably lower than his, so I would urge you to reevaluate your position on this matter. And no, most people do not like condescending pedants. I don’t even like Cecil. Do I respect him? Damn right. But do I like his written persona? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/46 "2001-09-29T02:19:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \* > \*\* > **Bill** , you’re an idiot. I base that view on everything you’ve ever posted here. I give you full credit for utilizing your governmentally provided right to free speech, but if it were up to me, you’d shut up – see, that’s my right to say that. I don’t, however, wish you’d never been born. \*\* Well, not everything. In the GD thread started by Fenris regarding the use of the word “fundies”, WB is coherantly and logically defending his position. He isn’t name calling, he’s not being rude, and he’s making some interesting points. Good job on the thread, Bill ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/47 "2001-09-29T02:22:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ruadh \* > \*\*So Bill, you understand people who are so fanatical in their religious beliefs that they’re willing to blow up abortion clinics, but not people who are so fanatical in their religious beliefs that they’re willing to crash planes into the WTC? > > Apart from scale, what’s the difference? \*\* _Dingdingding!!_ Thanks, **ruadh** , for once more telling it like it is in a way that even Bill might grasp. Bill, I sincerely hope it doesn’t happen. I really, really don’t. But what if your daughter (an assumption, I have no idea of your marital status, children, age…) was raped, and turned out to be pregnant? Would you still oppose abortion and make her have that child? The child of the man that raped her? Would you? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/48 "2001-09-29T02:57:19Z")
Hold up, there … I wasn’t trying to offend anyone, just making a point. The phrase in question - **"He’s the load his mother should have swallowed."** > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Maeglin_ > **I harbor no outrage whatsoever. Hence my questioning of the necessity of this pit thread. Recall I said that I was dealing with him just fine. So I tossed off a gratuitous insult.** I was sensing a little outrage. Hell, I’m outraged. Yes, a gratuitous insult. Un-warranted? Maybe- maybe not. I’m not in that big of a twist over it. I just calls 'em as I sees 'em. > [@](#): > > \*\*Big fucking deal. I ain’t a Christian. \*\* I knew that “Christian” thing was going to come back and bit me in the ass. News Flash: I ain’t a Christian either. My point there is that one of the major arguments I’ve heard agains **Bill** is: “For a Christian, you sure don’t act like one”. I threw in a little irony, just for the hell of it. > [@](#): > > **I an dealing with Bill’s monumental ignorance in GD. Perhaps you should consult the thread. And I am offended by the accusation that I am sinking to his level. My level is considerably lower than his, so I would urge you to reevaluate your position on this matter.** I’ve read that three times and I can’t tell if you’re making a funny or if you just mis-typed it and you actually are pissed off. Your level is lower than his? Anyway, Mom-judo is a pretty low level. I don’t even want to get in between you and **Bill** and Buddha knows I don’t have the patience to have a discussion or an argument with him. I wasn’t meaning to pick on you. I just picked on what you said, to make a point. You want to go after **Bill**? Don’t mind me – sic 'em. > [@](#): > > \*\*And no, most people do not like condescending pedants. I don’t even like Cecil. Do I respect him? Damn right. But do I like his written persona? Nope. \*\* Ok. You’re just going to smoke a turd in hell, for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/49 "2001-09-29T02:57:19Z")
why am i thinking the words ‘shotgun wedding?’ ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/50 "2001-09-29T03:30:06Z")
I honestly want to start a **Wildest Bill** Fan Club. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/51 "2001-09-29T03:33:17Z")
::crickets chirping:: ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/52 "2001-09-29T04:48:56Z")
Just for the hell of it, more of Bill’s greatest hits, grammatically speaking: > [@](#): > > – They are the scum of the earth bugs if you will and who cares if you torture a mosquitoe. [Ooh, the scum of the earth bugs. Nasty.] > > – What are you talking about. [. . . an avant garde declarative sentence.] > > – So please give your suggestions since ya’ll think mine suck so much let me hear yours. > > – No shade or heat either bread and water for food only for the rest of his miserable life. > > – But like I said what we are doing is not working they keep killing ours. > > – Sure maybe some of them had nothing to do with this but who cares they are terrorist and deserve to DIE! > > – But we have been pushed into war now and in war don’t things change a little I mean look how many innocent people died yesterday. > > – No sexywriter I am not saying anybody should started whacking terrorist. > > – As far as family members who cares what the stupid terrorist think. > > – If you try them in a court of law and punish them, do you think that is going to make them(the terrorist families)less mad? So both ways if the terrorist families become terrorist they will need to be wiped out too. [Not so much a grammatical problem, but I just had to include this little nugget of wisdom.] > > – Are you sure we trained Bin Laden? I did not know that. So he is like a rogue CIA agent or what? [Again, it’s not grammatical, but damn. . .] > > – Well, we need to establish is what happened yesterday a act of war or was it a crime. > > – In otherwords, it will make them more exceptable to the idea. > > – The cards of course will be found useless because they will be forged by the crazy muslim fanatics. > > – I would rather invade those other whacko countries overthrow their gov’ts and make them our states and take their oil. [I can’t tell, Bill may have been using sarcasm here.] > > – Now don’t go saying we use “fundie” because it is short for “fundamentalist” because I don’t see people on this board using the word “homo” for short of the word homosexual unless of course they are being duragatory toward the homosexual community for what they stand for. > > – Well the mob does this to the people that talk or steal from them and you know what not to many talk or steal from them. [WTF?] > > – Listen guin, I am not saying I have a problem with this I am just debating on this side of the coin IF those whaco terrorist use biological or nuclear weapons on the inocent lives of Americans in a terrorist mode(in otherwords cowardly). > > – I always wondered why God wiped out told the Jews to wipe out not only the men but the women and children as well. And with these terrorist it is starting to make sense. It is because their whole way of life is evil and it imbedded even in their children. Which is very sad but also very true. [Jesus, that’s vicious.] > > – Are you calling yourself a Christian by thinking abortiotn is just peachy ok? And what you like terrorist? What do you want to do with them give a welfare check maybe some gov’t housing? I actually think this list is pretty funny. Forgive me, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Nacho4Sara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Nacho4Sara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nacho4Sara)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/53 "2001-09-29T05:13:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Secondly, yes they are butchers. Yes, I know what abortion entails. It entails killing baby for money because the two so-called adults were irresponsible and now they want to kill a innocent party because of their mistake. Yes, it’s much better to raise an unwanted child. It doesn’t matter if you’re poor, if you’re an alcoholic, if you are a drug addict, if you are 15, if you are dumber than asphalt, if you just really don’t want and can’t handle the responsibility of a child. It doesn’t matter that there’s a chance the child will always be aware that he was unwanted. It’s much better to carry the evidence of a vicious, hateful act in your womb for nine months. It’s much better to suffer yourself and make the baby suffer for the rest of both of your lives. Wildest Bill, you are truly narrow-minded and ignorant to the realities of life. And please answer **ruadh** ’s question - how is blowing up an abortion clinic for religious reasons different from flying a plane into WTC for religious reasons, except for scale and the religion itself? Such Christians and such Muslims are hypocrits twisting the so-called word of God to justify their own hatred, ignorance and madness. And to empathize with them - in my mind, you’re no better than the killers yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/54 "2001-09-29T05:24:16Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\* > Well, not everything. In the GD thread started by Fenris regarding the use of the word “fundies”, WB is coherantly and logically defending his position. He isn’t name calling, he’s not being rude, and he’s making some interesting points._\* Well, except for the post where he called **Esprix** a “faggot” several times with the thinly veiled excuse of “Well, I’m not _actually_ calling you one, but if I did, I bet you wouldn’t like it!” From [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88512&pagenumber=2) > [@](#): > > \*\* > So if you throw your homosexuality around like a weapon, it’s ok for people to call you a pain in ass fag because you deserve it? \*\* > [@](#): > > \*\*What I said in this post in not for all homosexuals it is just for esprix to understand how he is full of crap he is \*\* \*\* > [@](#): > > I remember one thread where you just bragged about how many times you got banged over the weekend in MPS forum. Plus look at your sig line and all your other threads heck even other people call you a one trick pony show. \*\* (And kudos to **Esprix** for resisting toasting him in GD. You have more fortitude than I, m’friend.) Every time the little twerp gets in over his head, he resorts to truly ugly comments, like the time he called **SexyWriter** a slut 'cause she was winning an argument or the time **Guin** told him that reckless driving was bad and he responded that the only reason she was getting decent grades was because she spread her legs. (both paraphrased and from memory, but I can provide cites, if needed). Hell, he even played the “slut” card with **Esprix** in that thread. I assumed that **Maeglin** was trying to talk to the little fucker in a voice he understood. Every time he feels himself losing, he says something loathsome, backs off, gives a half-assed “well, shuks. Im jest, a por dum guy but, i wuz ronged, but i shudn’ta otta, sayd whut i sayd. but if yew hadnta maid me, i woudnta, had.” comment. And when someone launches a pre-emptive strike as **Maeglin** did, he comes back with the “you’re, momma shuda warshed, yo’re mouth owt with, soap with all’n yore, filthie language! Im, shocked SHOKED! that, yewd say somthing profane to li’l ol’ me!” and I’m sick of both routines. He’s a nasty, mean, little fuck who could only improve the boards with an enforced, perpetual absence. Those of you newer members might not be as familiar with some of his psychotic, over-the-top comments. Do some older searches for him in the Pit and get a feel for what a nasty asswipe he really is, as opposed to the mentally challenged country boy persona he plays. (and it _is_ an act. When he chooses to, he can spell and write correctly. But when he plays the dumb hick card, people pity him and he only gets about half the flaming he’d otherwise get) Fenris, finally fed up. ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/55 "2001-09-29T06:34:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > Ya’ll have fun too(outside fun not flaming me type fun). Later. I love him. He mispelled y’all. Marry me **WB** , even though I’m a straight happily married straight man and a liberal Democrat. I’ll be a homosexual bigamist for you. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/56 "2001-09-29T06:49:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I remember one thread where you just bragged about how many times you got banged over the weekend in MPS forum. Plus look at your sig line and all your other threads heck even other people call you a one trick pony show. Wow, I’ve seen that. It’s pretty fucked up. > [@](#): > > Every time he feels himself losing, he says something loathsome, backs off, gives a half-assed “well, shuks. Im jest, a por dum guy but, i wuz ronged, but i shudn’ta otta, sayd whut i sayd. but if yew hadnta maid me, i woudnta, had.” comment. > > And when someone launches a pre-emptive strike as Maeglin did, he comes back with the “you’re, momma shuda warshed, yo’re mouth owt with, soap with all’n yore, filthie language! Im, shocked SHOKED! that, yewd say somthing profane to li’l ol’ me!” This is very funny. I love it. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/57 "2001-09-29T06:51:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Wow, I’ve seen that. . . That was supposed to be “I’ve _never_ seen that.” Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/58 "2001-09-29T06:52:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*I didn’t insult all Muslims I just insulted the ones that kill Americans. \*\* Nonsense- you insulted all Muslims, in GD, with your assertions that all Muslims are anti-American. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/59 "2001-09-29T07:33:14Z")
I had been thinking of starting my own Pit thread, but I figured I’d just post this argument to this one: Anyway, WB talks a lot about Christianity, and how being a Christian is so important to him, and how non-Christians like Gandhi will be tortured in hell for an eternity, and so on and so forth. But, as you know, many people tell WB that he isn’t a Christian, because he doesn’t act like one, and he generally shrugs it off. After all, Jesus will forgive him, because he has a personal relationship with Christ, right? But what does it really mean to have a personal relationship with Christ, or with anyone else? It seems to me that if you really love someone, then you try to understand them deeply and to figure out what their likes and dislikes are, and you try to preemptively do things which you know will please them. I’ve met some people who are real Christians, who clearly love Christ a great deal, and who clearly spend a lot of time thinking about what they can do to make Jesus happy. WB, on the other hand, takes an approach which is completely different from that of someone with a real relationship with Jesus. WB’s typical pattern of behavior is that he does what he pleases- for example, he’ll insult people, sometimes in very nasty ways. When folks point out that his behavior is blatantly inappropriate and unacceptable for mature adults, WB demands that they produce a Bible verse which explicitly forbids whatever he just did. Typically this is easy to do- the Bible verses in question are often so well-known that even non-Christians can produce them. WB will then try to rules-lawyer some loophole by which he can do what he pleases anyway. If it’s a really big issue, for example if WB has made an anti-Semitic rant in which he calls for genocide, then after much tooth-pulling effort we _might_ be able to convince WB that he simply cannot create an excuse that will fly with Jesus. At that point, WB acts very chastened and talks about how sometimes he isn’t a good Christian, but we all make mistakes and even one of the disciples cut off someone’s ear, etc. Does WB’s behavior count as having a loving, personal relationship with Jesus? I think not. I can’t imagine a marriage based on such behavior lasting long at all. Imagine, for example, that the husband periodically gets caught cheating, and each time demands that his wife point to exactly where in the marriage vows adultery is forbidden. When she does so, he argues that fellatio technically isn’t sex. When she asks for a divorce, he makes a big deal of how he hasn’t been the best husband, how everyone makes mistakes, and so on. Maybe she stays with him- and then he cheats on her again. I ask you: is this the behavior of a man who loves his wife? A man who actively thinks about things he can do that will please her? Would anyone on the receiving end of this “personal relationship” want to stay with such a husband? Let me also point out that in response to WB’s grousings about my criticisms of his behavior, I have asked him more than once whether I have ever asked anything of him which Jesus did not already ask. That question is always a real conversation-killer for WB; he always seems to drop the argument rather than dare to answer it. I point to that fact as further proof that WB’s main goal is to do what he pleases, and Christ’s involvement in his life is limited to serving as fire insurance and as an occasional, unpleasant restriction which should be circumvented whenever possible. If he can blame Jesus’ restrictions on me, and thus pretend that he won’t go to hell for ignoring my “unreasonable” demands, then that helps WB maintain the illusion that he is a real Christian and can keep on doing what he likes without having to worry about hell. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2001, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/60 "2001-09-29T13:34:53Z")
You know, perhaps the Pit thread wasn’t needed-but then, I needed it. I was really really pissed at Bill’s insinuations about abortion doctors and such, because I have known people who have had abortions and the like and I KNOW it’s not an easy choice. The same guy who calls them baby terrorists was yelling about nuking the ragheads, killing their families, insulting their religion, etc etc. Pot Kettle Black. Oh, and Fenris, I was saying I was asking my professor to drive me across campus rather than using the crosswalk with so many dangerous drivers, and Bill asked me what I did to “persuade” my professor to do so. Then he appologizes-but it’s not a real appology, but a weasel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389.md?page=4)