# Wildest Bill Yet AGAIN!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389 "2001-09-28T21:40:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/101 "2001-10-01T14:39:31Z")

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\*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
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> I said I understood what was going on in the minds of abortion clinic bombers. They are freak’n out that this country has stooped to the morality level it has by allowing the taking of innocent lives because it is not convienient to have them. So in their outrage because they once knew this as a moral country they lash out at the clinics(usually empty) trying to try to stop further legal murders. \*\*

This country is probably a lot more “moral” now than it was when it was no big deal to let children work 14 hours a day, when it was okay to keep humans as slaves, when men beating up their wives was viewed as a private disagreement and not worthy of police intervention. I’d like to know how it can be immoral for doctors to provide abortions but moral for them (the outraged clinic bombers) to kill people.

And I guess I must be reading the wrong papers or have a selective memory; I don’t really recall any stories about “empty” clinics being bombed. I only remember the stories about receptionists and GYN exam patients and other persons who are completely uninvolved in abortions being killed when one of those bombers concerned with “innocent lives” murders them.

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> Now as far the Middle Eastern fella’s that crash into big office buildings(that are very full of people)killing innocent people because of their religion. I don’t get at all other than they have a very violent religion if it indeed causes them to do such things. \*\*

You must agree then that Christianity is also a very violent religion since it has caused certain of its believers to orchestrate the deaths of millions of people. Or are you unaware of what Christians have done to persons of other religions all in the name of God?

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/102 "2001-10-01T14:51:15Z")

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nice spelling, bill. your persona is slipping…

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/103 "2001-10-01T15:22:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> **It would explain that I probably have a better looking body than you. 😉**

Maybe. But who’d want a woman who can’t see beyond skin deep?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/104 "2001-10-01T15:57:48Z")

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**Wildest Bill** is most certainly a Christian, he is just more up to date then the rest of you. Have you not heard of the [Secret Gospel of Mark](http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_miss.htm)? This version, uncovered with the discovery of an ancient letter from Clement of Alexandria, changes our understanding of what it means to be Christian in a fundamental[pun intented] way. I believe **WB** has an exceptional grasp of these subtleties.

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_Here is an excerpt from what you may recognize as Mark 10:13 -_ And they brought young children to Him, that He should touch them. Jesus said to the gatherers, “Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.” But when Jesus beheld the children, he said unto the his disciples, “Tell these children to be gone from me, _these_ are not the children I was referring to. They dress funny, talk different, and some have dark skin. Ugh! I think one of them touched me! I must cleanse my garments with fire and bathe in sulfur springs.”

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/105 "2001-10-01T16:02:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> > **It would explain that I probably have a better looking body than you. 😉**
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> Maybe. But who’d want a woman who can’t see beyond skin deep?
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> Fenris \*\*

I was going to reply with a cocky self humiliating answer like “me”. But I don’t think I will because I am more than just skindeep. Obviously me and you are different with hopes, dreams and visions about the world we live in. You would get say a more liberal minded chick and I would get a more conservative minded one. To each his own. But mine would also have a nice body. 😉

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/106 "2001-10-01T16:05:57Z")

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Bill, compared to you, Fenris is the most gorgeous man on the planet-and I haven’t even SEEN his picture.

Hell, he’s pretty kickass when NOT comparing him to you, and this is from the Leftist Liberal Pinko Commie Squad Leader.  
😉

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/107 "2001-10-01T16:20:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Bill, compared to you, Fenris is the most gorgeous man on the planet-and I haven’t even SEEN his picture.

You haven’t seen mine either. 😉

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> Hell, he’s pretty kickass when NOT comparing him to you, and this is from the Leftist Liberal Pinko Commie Squad Leader.  
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This is why you find him attractive because I am the Rightest Conservative Capitalistic Squad leader short of Rush Limbaugh.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/108 "2001-10-01T16:24:51Z")

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I don’t need to see your picture-your actions, your statements and your attitude make you ugly.

The fact that you continue to call yourself a Christian disgusts me.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/109 "2001-10-01T16:32:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*I don’t need to see your picture-your actions, your statements and your attitude make you ugly.

And vice a versa.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/110 "2001-10-01T16:35:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> The babies unlike the criminals are innocent.

This does then assume that everyone on death row is guilty, doesn’t it? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I recall hearing once or twice that not everyone who falls victim to capital punishment actually committed to crimes ascribed to them.

It seems rather simplified to me, by the way, to ascribe one set of thoughts to a group of people rabid enough to go bombing abortion clinics. Surely there is room for some diversity? After all, serial/mass murderers don’t all think exactly the same.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/111 "2001-10-01T16:39:52Z")

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**Fenris** is a card carrying conservative. I know. I’ve checked. And I ditto **Guin’s** assesment - He’s onefantastic male! (and I sit firmly in the ‘liberal but not a fuckin’ lunatic’ section drinking my white wine, while waiting for my baked Brie & fruit appetizer)

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/112 "2001-10-01T16:42:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*
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> Hell, he’s pretty kickass when NOT comparing him to you, and this is from the Leftist Liberal Pinko Commie Squad Leader.  
> 😉 \*\*

That you would even use the word “commie” with so many real Americans that died fighting against sorry ass way of life disgust me. If you don’t like this country and what it stands, why in the Hell don’t you get out of our country and move to one of those commie countries that you find so wonderful. To think you call yourself an American, I find disgusting.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/113 "2001-10-01T16:43:31Z")

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I doubt that you have a better body than me, **Bill** , since we are both hardcore weightlifters. Having hard muscles and low body fat is all well and good, but it’s meaningless unless you have intelligence, compassion, generosity, and empathy for others.

I find that it’s the personality that makes the body sexy, not vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/114 "2001-10-01T16:49:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
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> That you would even use the word “commie” with so many real Americans that died fighting against sorry ass way of life disgust me. If you don’t like this country and what it stands, why in the Hell don’t you get out of our country and move to one of those commie countries that you find so wonderful. To think you call yourself an American, I find disgusting. \*\*

If you’re going to do Archie Bunker, you ought to at least throw in a “stifle yourself, Meathead” or two.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/115 "2001-10-01T16:52:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*I doubt that you have a better body than me, **Bill** , since we are both hardcore weightlifters. Having hard muscles and low body fat is all well and good, but it’s meaningless unless you have intelligence, compassion, generosity, and empathy for others.

Agreed. And I think I have alot of those qualities but maybe they don’t show up to well on the way I present myself on this message board.

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> I find that it’s the personality that makes the body sexy, not vice versa. \*\*

It’s funny in the real world and other boards I am member of people usually say I have a fun personality and like to be around me. Heck, even some people actually find me funny. I guess different strokes for different folks huh?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/116 "2001-10-01T16:53:06Z")

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> If you don’t like this country and what it stands, why in the Hell don’t you get out of our country and move to one of those commie countries that you find so wonderful. To think you call yourself an American, I find disgusting.

Dude, part of the glory of being American is the freedom to say any damnfool thing you want, as you have so amply demostrated.

As I have said in my Pit thread, I find the peace protesters disgusting, but they are allowed to say what they like, and I would be the first to defend them against official repression, no matter how daffy I find their cause to be.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/117 "2001-10-01T17:08:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*
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> If you’re going to do Archie Bunker, you ought to at least throw in a “stifle yourself, Meathead” or two. \*\*

You’re right of course. I can not believe I left that out. What was I thinking? 😃

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/118 "2001-10-01T17:17:01Z")

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It’s neither illegal nor immoral to be a communist in the U.S. or to believe in the communist philosophy. It is either, or both, to defend people who bomb clinics or kill doctors who perform procedures some people don’t like; to call persons racist names; to ascribe sweeping negative generalizations to entire nations of people based on the actions of a very small minority; to acquire controlled drugs for purposes other than that for which they were intended . . . I could go on and on.

Bill, if you don’t like how you can’t buy your fat-burning drugs here in the U.S., then why don’t you move to some other country that allows you to do so? If you are so against abortion, then why don’t you move to a country that doesn’t allow it? If you don’t like following the laws of this country or you think it is so morally decadent that you can rationalize how clinic bombers murder innocent people just to get someone to listen to them, then why in the Hell don’t you get out of our country and move to one of those countries that you must find so wonderful?

Do you see how pointless this type of argument is?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/119 "2001-10-01T17:18:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> \*\ ***Fenris** is a card carrying conservative. I know. I’ve checked. And I ditto **Guin’s** assesment - He’s onefantastic male! (and I sit firmly in the ‘liberal but not a fuckin’ lunatic’ section drinking my white wine, while waiting for my baked Brie & fruit appetizer) \*\*

Are you telling that to me?

Hell, I know he’s a conservative. But according to Bill, anyone slightly to the left of Bill-which is pretty far RIGHT, is a pinko, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/120 "2001-10-01T17:24:06Z")

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I was being facetious! I am NOT a communist, I can’t stand Marx, and I think communism is brutal and cruel.

Can’t someone use sarcasm?

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