# Wildest Bill Yet AGAIN!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389 "2001-09-28T21:40:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/121 "2001-10-01T17:32:36Z")
> [@](#): > > That you would even use the word “commie” with so many real Americans that died fighting against sorry ass way of life disgust me. [Another one for the grammar text books. . .] If you don’t like this country and what it stands, why in the Hell don’t you get out of our country and move to one of those commie countries that you find so wonderful. To think you call yourself an American, I find disgusting. Wow, this is really stupid. “I think that we’re using a sub-optimal economic system.” “_You get the fuck out of this country! You disgust me!_” “Huh?” > [@](#): > > It’s neither illegal nor immoral to be a communist in the U.S. or to believe in the communist philosophy. This is moslty true. The last time I checked, being a communist (or anarchist) automatically disqualifies one from U.S. naturalization. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/122 "2001-10-01T17:36:56Z")
so, by your logic WB, all the viet Cong that the American soldiers killed make the American way of life disgusting too, right? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/123 "2001-10-01T17:39:13Z")
(I was trying to tell **Bill** that despite the fact you,a ‘liberal’, admired **Fenris** and he’s a staunch conservative. IOW, that it isn’t the fact that **Bill’s** a ‘conservative’ that inspires your feelings. Ok?? here, have a slice of pear and wedge of Brie - are you of age?? if so, help yourself to the wine) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/124 "2001-10-01T17:44:27Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Wildest Bill** _ > > It’s funny in the real world and other boards I am member of people usually say I have a fun personality and like to be around me. Heck, even some people actually find me funny. I guess different strokes for different folks huh? I’m sure you’re real popular during weekly cross-burnings. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/125 "2001-10-01T17:48:14Z")
23 last July-thanks! I have some pie, myself-strawberry cheese. ---
**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/126 "2001-10-01T17:49:05Z")
VarlosZ: I think you might be right about the naturalization. I was referring to people who are already citizens - I think once you are official, you can claim whatever political philosophy you want. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/127 "2001-10-01T18:15:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*This is why you find him attractive because I am the Rightest Conservative Capitalistic Squad leader short of Rush Limbaugh. \*\* Must we play “More conservative than thou”? Aren’t we just a little old for that? And again, if we do, who knows? You just might win the “More Right than Mussolini” contest. But I can articulate my position clearly, stating the reasons for my views, and have a chance of persuading people. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/128 "2001-10-01T19:30:10Z")
For the record, I think Fenris’s ideals and poise make him sexy. Not that my opinion counts, but I felt like sharing. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/129 "2001-10-01T20:01:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > > \*\*I don’t need to see your picture-your actions, your statements and your attitude make you ugly. > > And vice a versa. \*\* \*\* “I know you are, but what am I!” Nothing like a little schoolyard wit coming from a father of two, I suppose. Wildest Bill, I think Guin has presented, now and in the past, some fairly cogent arguments to back her assessment of you. Simply shouting “you’re ugly too!” isn’t very impressive as a rebuttal, because we already know that even a baboon can throw feces. While Guin’s language might not have been very “ladylike,” it was nonetheless backed by the potent force of argument. Frankly, you disgust me, and I’ve given some reasons why in [my Pit thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=90239) I don’t see you defending yourself there, and I don’t really expect you to. There’s really no defense you can make, because you are obviously guilty and unrepentant as charged. I always ask you if I have ever demanded behavior from you which Jesus has not demanded already, and you always ignore that question. I suspect that the real truth of the matter is that it is far easier for you to ignore me than to honestly face the question of where you will spend eternity. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/130 "2001-10-01T20:45:21Z")
Yea, I saw your thread. But not to many people have because it was lame. Too hard to research and everybody has done some wrong in their. I guess you forgot about who is ever without sin cast the first stone huh? Plus you didn’t even offer a prize. So maybe you are coming here to advertise it a little because it is dying fast and you want to know why? Because nobody is without sin buddy. Heck you could do a search on anybody and they would come off with the same. I never said I was perfect. I mean why are you so worried about it? Does it bother you that I believe in Christ and I am not a perfect Christian(or at least in your mind). I mean you almost act like the devil himself trying to find fault in me to send me to an eternity in Hell. Well you know what the Devil is a pussy and God can squash him anytime he wants too. He was just a washed up angel. So I choose to believe in God because it makes perfect sense. Am I bad Christian yea I would probably say that I am. So I will probably be on the lowest level in Heaven unless I get my act together. You know why because that is what the Bible promises. I don’t have to get Heaven by works it is by Faith. Don’t you get it? All a person has to do is believe that Christ died for him/her as their savior and they are promised eternal life in Heaven. Like I said if they just do the minimum they get the minimum. But I would rather have the minimun in Heaven then the maximum in firery torment. And some people are to vein to even except that(God’s gift to us). Some people call it cheap grace. It wasn’t cheap at all. Christ made a humongus sacrafice for me. While I am not the best person in the world, at least I didn’t do what you did and reject the gift and believe in some stupid theory about how the world came about so I could live my life like I wanted to with no regret or consequence. Then to make myself feel better try to make other people feel bad about what they do. You are one low lost dude ben. You are more warped than the weirdo in the ben movies that plays with the rats. What you should be asking yourself is where you are going to land in the grand scheme of things at the end of your life? I mean what are you going to say what was so great about your life? HUH? Are you going to look at God and say I am sorry but I just didn’t believe all that stuff in the Bible because so many smart people on the SDMB conferred with my belief in Evolution. And it was supported by science yadayadayada. Is that what you are going to say? And what do you think He is going to say to you huh? Something like get away from me because I never knew you. And then where are you going to spend eternity in huh buddy? You better stop worrying about me and worrying about yourself because in this day time with planes flying into buildings and a biological war on the horizon you don’t really know how much time you have left to get right with your Maker now do you? Ben, I am sorry I came down on you buddy like I did(which I really don’t like to do)but maybe it is time for you to start thinking about where your soul is going to end up instead of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/131 "2001-10-01T20:45:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ben \* > **I suspect that the real truth of the matter is that it is far easier for you to ignore me than to honestly face the question of where you will spend eternity.** So he’s going to hell because of what he posts on a message board? I subscribe to the belief that he is an attention whore. Or a comedian trying material out on us. He is one funny motherfucker, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/132 "2001-10-01T20:52:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\* I don’t have to get Heaven by works it is by Faith. Don’t you get it? All a person has to do is believe that Christ died for him/her as their savior and they are promised eternal life in Heaven. Like I said if they just do the minimum they get the minimum. \*\* Wow, what an asshole! ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/133 "2001-10-01T20:55:38Z")
And if you don’t believe in such a simple gift from God what does that make you Manhattan the moderator a dumbass? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/134 "2001-10-01T21:01:05Z")
> [@](#): > > You know why because that is what the Bible promises. I don’t have to get Heaven by works it is by Faith. Don’t you get it? All a person has to do is believe that Christ died for him/her as their savior and they are promised eternal life in Heaven. “Faith without works is as dead as a body without breath.” James 1:28 “You say that you believe that Jesus si god? so do the demons in Hell, and they tremble!” Also James, but I’m quoting from memory and can’t tell you chapter and verse. Yes, Bill, Jesus’s atonement on the cross paid for your sins in full, BUT (it’s a big but) you are not off the hok. If you do not open your heart to Jesus and do not repent of your sins, then you cannot receive salvation. you must approach Jesus with a broken and contrite heart, with no excuses or rationalizations. Taking Jesus’s gift of salvation for granted is cheap grace. {b]Ben\*\*, could you knock off the Bill-baiting? Yes, he says a lot of stupid, spiteful things that do not reflect a Christian spirit, but the contstant, one-note harping on the guy is getting old. It’s one thing if you two get into a flame war over an issue, like **Otto** and I are doing, but going after Bill just to belittle him reflects more of your pettiness than his. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/135 "2001-10-01T21:06:37Z")
There are no “levels” in heaven, Bill. God does not care about evolution. God does not care about excuses. God does not care about “satan.” God _cares_. God is _love_. I hope you find peace, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/136 "2001-10-01T21:13:57Z")
Jesus Christ, you guys! He is such a troll, along with being an utter waste of brain matter… No, wait, he really **believes** that shit… ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/137 "2001-10-01T21:18:33Z")
On the peace issue e too andros. And I do think there are deferent rewards in Heaven. The Bible talks about them in many places. So I was thinking in my mind since Heaven is going to be 1500 miles high there would be different levels for the Christians that did the most good while they were here. But like I said that is just an idea of mine. I am not for sure. But I know there are different rewards. I feel bad coming down so on hard on Ben I really don’t like to that. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/138 "2001-10-01T21:20:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*It’s funny in the real world and other boards I am member of people usually say I have a fun personality and like to be around me. Heck, even some people actually find me funny. I guess different strokes for different folks huh? \*\* Why did I have to wade through this entire thread? Now I am rewarded with the fact that an ugly image is struggling to form back in the grey matter of the type of community populated by WB appreciators. I fear it may surface tonight to haunt me in a nightmare. **Esprix** , I wish it were as you suggested and they were easily identifiable by their hoods. Unfortunately, I fear they have little difficulty “passing” - and I don’t doubt that they have plenty of company. Please, WB, as a public service, identify your social circles so the rest of us can make sure we make sure to steer a wide berth. Is there at least the hope that his supplements may cause sterility? Final, minor nitpick: few of us are perfect typists (even when we do avail ourselves of the preview.;)) But Bill’s careless sloppiness is a consistent sign of his lack of respect for those to whom he directs his posts. (I almost slipped up in that final sentence and accused him of “communicating”!) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/139 "2001-10-01T21:21:21Z")
**SCORE!** [sub](Sorry, couldn’t resist!)[/sub] **Bill** , I expect you’ll be getting quite a surprise in your afterlife. You are the reason I hate Christianity. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2001, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389/140 "2001-10-01T21:24:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > Are you going to look at God and say I am sorry but I just didn’t believe all that stuff in the Bible because so many smart people on the SDMB conferred with my belief in Evolution. And it was supported by science yadayadayada. > > Is that what you are going to say? And what do you think He is going to say to you huh? Something like get away from me because I never knew you. And then where are you going to spend eternity in huh buddy? I can only offer some words from a wiser man than I: > [@](#): > > He said, “Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith.” > > I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. > > Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God… might be… fuckin’ with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: “Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha. I’m a prankster God! I am KILLING me!” > > You know, you die and go to St. Peter… “Did you believe in dinosaurs?” > > “Well, yeah. There was fossils everywhere” [trapdoor opens] “Aaaaaaarhhh!” > > “You idiot! Giant flying lizards, you moron! God was FUCKING with you!” > > “It seemed so plausible, ahhhh!” > > Bound for the lake of fire… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-yet-again/84389.md?page=8)