# Wildest Bill you crazy SOB **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469 "2001-09-13T22:51:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/61 "2001-09-14T16:43:35Z")
[Boomhauer] …she has following around like a mangy horny mutt humping on my leg so I just had to kick her off… [/Boomhauer] ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/62 "2001-09-14T16:45:15Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Munch** _ > > That’s right, it’s not an isolated incident. I did not mean that his apology was an isolated incident, but rather the fact that he posts these knee-jerk, fly-off-the-handle, highly insulting, bashing threads that _require_ apologies isn’t isolated. I dare say he holds the record for starting such threads. > [@](#): > > Why not actually look for the cites of WB apologizing or backing down yourself, if you’re so adament? Even if he apologized for every thread he’s started, the fact remains that _he keeps posting them anyway_. At some point, gratuitous ignorance becomes painfully obvious, and it’s obvious that he hasn’t learned a damned thing in the entire time he’s been here. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/63 "2001-09-14T16:45:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*And thus we discover why this is in the Pit. > > Kinda predictable, wasn’t it? \*\* Very! I do not have infinite foresight, and I often lack foresight of any length altogether, but certainly I acted prudently in this effort. **Bill** , you make me happy even though you probably don’t know it because we never really interact. But that’s ok. I’ve got nothing against you, and you’re at the best message board in the world. Where else can expressing your opinion turn hippies into raving lunatics bent on degrading your faith? 😛 😃 You are not ashamed to be you, and hell if I’m going to try and make you, even if you are wrong from time to time. Hell, I’m wrong quite a bit, I make spelling errors, and I don’t receive anywhere near the punishment you do. Solidarity, baby! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/64 "2001-09-14T16:52:47Z")
> [@](#): > > I did not mean that his apology was an isolated incident, but rather the fact that he posts these knee-jerk, fly-off-the-handle, highly insulting, bashing threads that _require_ apologies isn’t isolated. I dare say he holds the record for starting such threads. And if he never came here, then someone else would have the record. That’s irrelevant. > [@](#): > > Even if he apologized for every thread he’s started, the fact remains that _he keeps posting them anyway_. At some point, gratuitous ignorance becomes painfully obvious, and it’s obvious that he hasn’t learned a damned thing in the entire time he’s been here. Speaking of knee-jerk, I’m going to assume you haven’t read any of WB’s earliest posts lately, have you? I daresay that WB has learned an incredible deal. And if you were to start a thread asking him what he’s learned, I would wager a guess that he’d politely respond. Regardless of how frustrating he may be, he brings a perspective that no one on this board has brought, to date. The fact that he speaks contrary to most poster’s general/personal philosophy does not take away the fact that WB is still an actual person. If every thread in Great Debates was nothing but everyone sitting around saying “Good point!” and “I entirely agree!”, this board wouldn’t have much of a future. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/65 "2001-09-14T17:09:44Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **erislover** _ > > Where else can expressing your opinion turn hippies into raving lunatics bent on degrading your faith? If you’re speaking of anywhere in this thread, I’d like to see a quote, as I haven’t seen any faith-bashing here. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/66 "2001-09-14T17:20:56Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Munch** _ > > And if he never came here, then someone else would have the record. That’s irrelevant. I don’t see how it’s irrelevant at all. We may always have idiots, but it’d be nice to think that they’d _change_ from time to time… > [@](#): > > Speaking of knee-jerk, I’m going to assume you haven’t read any of WB’s earliest posts lately, have you? I daresay that WB has learned an incredible deal. And I daresay **Bill** hasn’t learned much at all, IMHO. Obviously we are in disagreement. > [@](#): > > Regardless of how frustrating he may be, he brings a perspective that no one on this board has brought, to date. The fact that he speaks contrary to most poster’s general/personal philosophy does not take away the fact that WB is still an actual person. If every thread in Great Debates was nothing but everyone sitting around saying “Good point!” and “I entirely agree!”, this board wouldn’t have much of a future. On the one hand, I agree - differing opinions are valued and necessary for debate. However, when it’s the same person over and over and over again, ignorance is not being fought. The fact that he happily wears the title “Village Idiot” speaks volumes. Hell, even _Silo_\* changed after his Mike Masterson days (although, sadly, he’s backslid quite a bit into his old ways since his banning). I’m not seeing that here. Again, YMMV. Do I hate him? No. Does he annoy the shit out of me? Yes. Am I the only one who feels this way? No. Are you the only one who feels your way? No. Life goes on… Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/67 "2001-09-14T17:34:53Z")
> [@](#): > > life goes on… And so does the WB bashing in the WB appreciation thread, apparently… ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/68 "2001-09-14T17:51:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > They [liberals] think that society is messed up and that is why the criminals did what they do forgetting how much pain the victoms went through from the criminals. This seems to me to be somewhat related to what Falwell and Robertson are saying. I’d like to find **anyone** who would make a case for either being a liberal. > [@](#): > > Anyway that is my take on liberals they alway want to try to reform(house) heinous criminals instead of burning(executing) them. ::shakes head:: Will you EVER fucking learn a single **thing** on this MB? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/69 "2001-09-14T17:53:12Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\* > I did not mean that his apology was an isolated incident, but rather the fact that he posts these knee-jerk, fly-off-the-handle, highly insulting, bashing threads that require apologies isn’t isolated. I dare say he holds the record for starting such threads._\* And yet, nobody seems to enjoy them more than you do. My immediate and surprised reaction, when perusing his threads, was that the one name that inevitably came up in every controversial WB thread was “Esprix.” Time and time again, often long after the horse had been beaten to death and its corpse smashed with a hammer, in you’d come, enthusastically kicking the late equine, usually throwing around the nastiest insults in the (non-Pit) threads for good measure. So I admit that I’m curious as to why you’re complaining about Wildest Bill train wrecks when you seem to love rolling around in the debris. > [@](#): > > \*\*Even if he apologized for every thread he’s started, the fact remains that _he keeps posting them anyway_. At some point, gratuitous ignorance becomes painfully obvious, and it’s obvious that he hasn’t learned a damned thing in the entire time he’s been here. > \*\* It’s not immediately obvious to me that YOU’VE learned a damned thing since you’ve been here. We don’t keep tabs on that sort of thing, do we? Or is there an exam I missed? Anyway, I certainly noticed a change in his attitude over time - but then, I went back and did some reading of his stuff, which you did not. He’s not exactly Winston Churchill with the written word yet, granted, but some people’s writing skills are at remarkable variance from their intelligence and smarts. I would not assume he’s a reactionary idiot because he expresses himself poorly on the SDMB, which is not to say I know he’s a genius or anything. In fact, I know a few people on here personally who don’t come off like themselves at all, and to think you can accurately gauge the worth of a person’s character - or their humanity, as some have tried in this thread - is the absolute height of idiocy. I sure wouldn’t assume, based on the limited scope of the SDMB, to assume that this poster is an inhuman monster, or that poster is an irrational, panic-stricken fool, or that this poster over here is a nihilistic nutjob, or that this poster here is a self-righteous, preening asshead who only thinks to whine about their lot in life and obsess about sex and getting laid. Or consider me; I know I come off as a total ass; in RL, I’m only partially an ass. All that doesn’t change the fact that Wildest Bill DOES come up with some of the dumbest OPs in recent memory, excluding the genuine article nutbars (who I propose be referred to forevermore as “Wingless Shuttles”) but I will say this in his defense; **he’s come up with more GOOD, interesting, well-replied-to threads (especially in IMHO) than anyone, by a factor of 100%, easy.** More than you and I combined, I’d bet. That’s good value for my time and effort. ---
**Author:** ![ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/70 "2001-09-14T17:59:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Green Bean \* > \*\*[Boomhauer] > …she has following around like a mangy horny mutt humping on my leg so I just had to kick her off… > [/Boomhauer] \*\* I think I’ll use this as my new sig. What a hoot! -L ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/71 "2001-09-14T17:59:20Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Munch** _ > > And so does the WB bashing in the WB appreciation thread, apparently… Apparently. Appreciation threads go in MPSIMS, not The Pit, for a reason - you _can’t_ bash in MPSIMS, so they stay appreciative. Bad call on the OP’s part. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/72 "2001-09-14T18:05:17Z")
Why, I do believe that someone around here, whose initials are not dissimilar to **W.B** , is greatly enjoying the attention he gets in this thread, and he returns many times to make sure this attention continues. Ad nauseum. ---
**Author:** ![ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/73 "2001-09-14T18:05:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Munch \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Sexy writer, > > > > Bite me. Me trailer trash? > > > [@](#): > > > > It’s SexyWritER not SexyWritING, you stupid bottom-feeder. > > Time to take your own advice, and “learn to properly EXPRESS how stupid you are.” > > Sometimes we see only what we want to see. \*\* Just to clarify for shits and grins: Bill has on several occasions commented that my writing wasn’t sexy at all. Until now, I’ve refrained from pointing out to him that my handle does not indicate that my writING is sexy, but rather the writER. That was the point of my comment. It seemed like there might have been some confusion that I’d misread Bill’s magnificent post in which he suggested that I bite him. How many calories are in a pile of shit anyway? -L ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/74 "2001-09-14T18:11:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **RickJay** _ > > And yet, nobody seems to enjoy them {his threads} more than you do. I disagree - most of them piss me off to no end. Complaining about something doesn’t seem logically to indicate that there is any kind of enjoyment involved. > [@](#): > > Time and time again, often long after the horse had been beaten to death and its corpse smashed with a hammer, in you’d come, enthusastically kicking the late equine, usually throwing around the nastiest insults in the (non-Pit) threads for good measure. Yes - this is _completely_ unheard of on the SDMB. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > So I admit that I’m curious as to why you’re complaining about Wildest Bill train wrecks when you seem to love rolling around in the debris. I do not. I do complain about them a lot. I’d rather there wasn’t a reason to. > [@](#): > > Anyway, I certainly noticed a change in his attitude over time - but then, I went back and did some reading of his stuff, which you did not. The only change I’ve seen is pre-empting his posts with, “I know I’m going to get bashed for this, but…” I hardly call that improvement, but hey, at least he’s learning precognition through experience. > [@](#): > > I would not assume he’s a reactionary idiot because he expresses himself poorly on the SDMB, which is not to say I know he’s a genius or anything. I’m sorry, but “let’s nuke the towelheads,” “all lawyers are scum,” “liberals are destroying this country,” _ad nauseum_ isn’t “expressing himself poorly,” it is, in fact, the indications of a reactionary idiot. > [@](#): > > Or consider me; I know I come off as a total ass; in RL, I’m only partially an ass. OK, that I can believe. 😉 > [@](#): > > All that doesn’t change the fact that Wildest Bill DOES come up with some of the dumbest OPs in recent memory… but I will say this in his defense; **he’s come up with more GOOD, interesting, well-replied-to threads (especially in IMHO) than anyone, by a factor of 100%, easy.** More than you and I combined, I’d bet. That’s good value for my time and effort. Do I think all of **Bill** ’s posts are worthless, irritating and/or half-cocked? No - the fact that he’s gotten so many responses on some of his topics are obvious proof of that. But the _idiotic_ ones are so far over the edge that they vastly overshadow any “normal” ones (for lack of a better term). Hell, if anyone understands reputations around here, I do believe I could be the poster boy, as I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve been called a One Trick Pony[sup]TM[/sup], regardless of what the facts of my posting history might prove otherwise - **Bill** ought to consider that. And how long did it take before **Silo** changed his tune and people stopped seeing him as a troll? Months, IIRC. And I wouldn’t go so far as to say **Bill** ’s posted _more_ entertaining/interesting threads than anyone else, but yes, he has provided _some_, on that I would agree with you. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/75 "2001-09-14T18:19:20Z")
Esprix is a one trick pony? Errr… what trick is that? Who the hell says that? 😕 It was not a bad call on my part to put an apprecieation thread in the pit, it was a deliberate act. I wanted to target all groups in regards to **Bill** , and what better way to appreciate the one some considered a stupid troll than to bash him? He wins both ways here… _everyone_ gets to show their appreciation, in whatever form that takes. MPSIMS only tells half the story… The Pit tells all! ---
**Author:** ![smoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@smoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smoke)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/76 "2001-09-14T18:55:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nostradamus \* > \*\*Why, I do believe that someone around here, whose initials are not dissimilar to **W.B** , is greatly enjoying the attention he gets in this thread, and he returns many times to make sure this attention continues. Ad nauseum. \*\* …because you’re psychic? 😉 BTW- could you put that in quatrain form for us? -j ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/77 "2001-09-14T19:01:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > If you’re seriously stating that someone is an “inhuman monster” based on the evidence on this frigging MESSAGE BOARD… By this I assume you mean “all the evidence available to me.” Yes, I am. As a good skeptic should be, I’m always open to new evidence if you care to provide some. > [@](#): > > evidence that, as near as I can tell, is comprised of his being a terrible typist and flying off the handle a lot And wanting to torture people, and indiscriminantly kill “suspects” and indiscriminently nuke countries and any number of simply inhuman things that he has opined on during his tenure here. Check his threads. > [@](#): > > - you need to get away from the computer, pal. Give up message boards for awhile, 'cause your perspective is shot. Actually, my perspective was made crystal clear on Tuesday, thank you very much. The clarity came from a series of events that happened very much off these message boards. Perhaps you’re familiar with them. I’ve seen the face of evil up close and personal. I met evil personally. My fucking apartment still smells like evil, and my office building is covered in inches and inches of the debris of evil. I’ve spent the last couple days gathering ice for the victims of evil and the people helping them. I’m a ghoddamned expert on the subject of evil. As a result, I’ve tightened my standard of with whom I’m pleased to be sharing a species. **Bill** is not on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/78 "2001-09-14T19:09:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > > Bite me. Me trailer trash? I have made more money than you ever hope to. Bill, that was low. So you have money? So WHAT? Bin Laden is a millionaire-guess that makes him classy… :rolleyes: Go to hell, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/79 "2001-09-14T19:09:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > **Esprix is a one trick pony? Errr… what trick is that? Who the hell says that? 😕** Hint: check his sig. Note: I am not calling Esprix a one trick pony. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469/80 "2001-09-14T19:15:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > > I am not saying that liberals are more sensitive to the terrorist than they are the victims. I am just saying alot them think that they shouldn’t get the death penalty. Bill-if you execute Bin Laden, he becomes a MARTYR. Would you get that fact through your fucking thick little skull? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-crazy-sob/81469.md?page=5)