# Wildest Bill, you worthess piece of offal. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 5, 2001, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651 "2001-10-05T19:57:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/1 "2001-10-05T19:57:47Z")
Y’know? If you were to drop dead, the collective IQ of humanity would go up a percent or two. And the decency level would go up a thousand-fold. In GD (not MPSIMS or The Pit, where I might take it as a pathetic attempt at black humor) you suggested that murdering old people is better than murdering babies. (I assume you mean fetuses since you suggested that Pro-Choice people want to murder “babies”). Even if I’m charitable and assume that you mean this as an attempt at Swiftian satire :rolleyes:, your assumptions are so bigoted as to be beyond belief. Your [“reasons”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=91266) that old people don’t deserve to live: > [@](#): > > 1. Old people have nothing to look forward to when they are old(I am talking about bed ridden old people that just sleep and eat oh and complain)except death. They have already lived the best years. > > 2. They are done contributing to society as a whole and now have become a drag on society. > > 3. They are hard to talk to because you have to yell and then they still don’t know what you said. > > \ > > 1. They also usually make you feel bad to be around(they kind of smell) and they make you think about your own mortality. Bill, I know a number of old people and have just recently lost a grandmother. _EVERY_ old person I know is worth more than you. 1. _you_ have nothing to look forward to. You can’t learn and you can’t think. You’re basically a walking orifice. 2. You’ve contributed nothing to society that I know of, other than as a drag on humanity’s IQ, lots of tickets for reckless driving and lord-knows-how-much revenue from lawsuits. 3. You’re harder to talk to. Their hearing may be going, your brain isn’t engaged. 4. You, being the disgusting excuse for a hominid that you are, make me feel bad for my species. Imagine this post using Blacks, with similarly offensive stereotypes instead of old people. And I won’t even go into the intellectual dishonesty of assuming that Pro-Choice people kill “babies” (babies don’t “learn new words”. Most kids start talking after they become toddlers) Just when I think you can’t possibly get any dumber or lower… I _do_ have a question for the other Dopers who read this: Is **Bill** really this dumb, self-absorbed and disgusting or is he just a troll. I can’t decide and would appreciate some input. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/2 "2001-10-05T20:10:04Z")
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/3 "2001-10-05T20:12:13Z")
You know, there’ve been so many Wildest Bill Pit threads that, well, it’s just not special anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/4 "2001-10-05T20:16:45Z")
Bill-go to hell. Right now. Just go to Hell. I’m so mad I can’t even see straight. You vile vile creature. You horrid excuse for a human being. You’ve crossed the line, big time. If you have one ounce of decency in you, just one, you’d do the entire world a favor-stop calling yourself a Christian. You’re not. You are not a Christian, not in any way. Get thee behind me. You are disgusting and inhuman. _takes deep breaths…_ ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/5 "2001-10-05T20:17:37Z")
I’m sorry to admit that I used to be a fan of Bill’s. I agreed with almost nothing that he said, but he was fun and interesting, if difficult to take sometimes. But lately, he seems to have really gotten much worse. The old people thread is clearly troll material. I’m ashamed for him. I wish it was possible for Bill to be ashamed of himself. Goodbye, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/6 "2001-10-05T20:18:28Z")
He’s either a real idiot (but much like some of my relatives), or he’s a _very_ clever troll. I’m starting to lean towards the former, as I don’t think a clever troll would troll so quickly and so obviously again after the recent warning. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/7 "2001-10-05T20:18:54Z")
It seems to me that posting that thread was **WB’s** not-so-subtle attempt at, as **Fenris** put it, Swiftian satire (and I would bet my entire net worth that Bill has no idea what that phrase means). I can’t believe he would post such an inflammatory thread only a day after being warned specifically not to troll. one thing I’ve noticed about **WB** ’s posting behavior is that he opens a lot of threads, but rarely contributes to threads already started. It seems less trolling than a dimwit’s desperate cry for attention. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/8 "2001-10-05T20:20:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > > In GD (not MPSIMS or The Pit, where I might take it as a pathetic attempt at black humor) you suggested that murdering old people is better than murdering babies. (I assume you mean fetuses since you suggested that Pro-Choice people want to murder “babies”). Well since abortion debates are asked to be in the GD forum that is where I put it. If the mods want to move here so you can cuss me oout so be it. > [@](#): > > Even if I’m charitable and assume that you mean this as an attempt at Swiftian satire :rolleyes:, your assumptions are so bigoted as to be beyond belief. Yes, it was an attempt at satire but I guess it went right over your head. I do think it odd that you would only list what I said about old people and just blow off listing what I said about babies. I guess you are closer to being old than you are being a baby. Kind of self protecting arn’t ya? > [@](#): > > I know a number of old people and have just recently lost a grandmother. _EVERY_ old person I know is worth more than you. I know alot people that have no children and would like to have one to. Or how about alot of brothers and sister that never had a brother or sister because it wasn’t convenient at the time. > [@](#): > > 1. You’ve contributed nothing to society that I know of, other than as a drag on humanity’s IQ, lots of tickets for reckless driving and lord-knows-how-much revenue from lawsuits. You don’t know how many people I have employed but I know one thing I couln’t have employed any if my mother decided to make the wrong choice. > [@](#): > > Imagine this post using Blacks, with similarly offensive stereotypes instead of old people. Stereotypes? I was using using extreme satire to make a point about comparing old bed ridden people to babies in the womb. > [@](#): > > Most kids start talking after they become toddlers) Your right lets kill them before they have chance to argue the benefits of their life with ole Fenris. > [@](#): > > I _do_ have a question for the other Dopers who read this: Is **Bill** really this dumb, self-absorbed and disgusting or is he just a troll. I can’t decide and would appreciate some input. ] I can’t believe what a weak debater you are. Why don’t you just go whine to a mod like a little whinny kid(all except if your mother would have made a different choice you wouldn’t be able to) so you don’t have to deal with me anymore. Is that your goal? If I do get banned for this which I think is really lame, I do want to say goodbye to some of the friends I have met on this board. And I hope you all have a good life and try to live at least some of it outside the internet some. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/9 "2001-10-05T20:24:35Z")
Skilled troll. He is actually quite adept at posting utter rubbish while avoiding the wrath of the moderators with his innocent dumb hick shtick. He is to be commended, but you better hurry, he may not be with us much longer. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/10 "2001-10-05T20:34:39Z")
He’s completely missed _this_ point: > [@](#): > > 1. Old people have nothing to look forward to when they are old(I am talking about bed ridden old people that just sleep and eat oh and complain)except death. They have already lived the best years. Even if it weren’t insensitive and bigoted, it’d _still_ be wrong. Long-lived people help ensure the survival of larger numbers of their children’s children, and so have genetic selection benefits, biologically speaking. Yup that’s right! If you’re at subsistance-level, having your parents, aunts, and uncles around mean that more of _your_ children will survive infancy! Why? Because they handle less strenuous domestic tasks, watch the bambinos, and _teach_ important skills, while the parents are out gathering food and protecting the tribe. In agricultural societies, old folks are _still_ teachers and baby-sitters, allowing the farmers to work longer hours and bring in more food, so in agricultural societies, old folks don’t just benefit the family or tribe, they benefit the whole society! In industrial-revolution societies, old folks are less teachers, but are still babysitters, allowing two people to work outside the home, allowing the parents to keep their family out of company-owned abject poverty. In post-WWII American (and maybe some other) societies (The Nuclear Family), old folks, with their life, social, business, and family skills, are thrown-away! (put in retirement homes or institutions) This is mostly because for one brief moment, we were so prosperous that we didn’t need two incomes, and women took over the role normally handled by the aged. In post-modern society, we’re again _begining_ to remember that the aged are people with skills, capabilities, and knowledge. Maybe we’ll remember it well enough to make longevity a survival trait again. And then we can afford to stuff ingnorant wretches in the dumper. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/11 "2001-10-05T20:35:42Z")
> [@](#): > > . And I hope you all have a good life and try to live at least some of it outside the internet some. I love it when somebody under fire lashes out with this one. **WB** , you’re here, reading and posting, so why don’t you try to live life outside of the Internet? Most us (including me) post from work during slow time. I lift weights, play with my cat, snuggle with my BF, read, visit the Smithsonian on weekends, and so on. **WB** , I really can’t defend you because you continue to post wildly infuriating threads. We know you meant it as satire, but it’s not clever, just hateful. It’s especially stupid of you to do this just after you were warned to knock it off by an administrator, no less. We will miss you. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/12 "2001-10-05T20:36:33Z")
> [@](#): > > . And I hope you all have a good life and try to live at least some of it outside the internet some. I love it when somebody under fire lashes out with this one. **WB** , you’re here, reading and posting, so why don’t you try to live life outside of the Internet? Most us (including me) post from work during slow time. I also lift weights, play with my cat, snuggle with my BF, read, visit the Smithsonian on weekends, and so on. **WB** , I really can’t defend you because you continue to post wildly infuriating threads. We know you meant it as satire, but it’s not clever, just hateful. It’s especially stupid of you to do this just after you were warned to knock it off by an administrator, no less. We will miss you. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/13 "2001-10-05T20:42:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\* > I can’t believe what a weak debater you are. Why don’t you just go whine to a mod like a little whinny kid(all except if your mother would have made a different choice you wouldn’t be able to) so you don’t have to deal with me anymore. > > Is that your goal? > > If I do get banned for this which I think is really lame, I do want to say goodbye to some of the friends I have met on this board. And I hope you all have a good life and try to live at least some of it outside the internet some. \*\* I will address one point of this drivel to the rest of the Straight Dope: Please note how, once again, **Worthless Bill** has decided to shift responsiblity from his actions. Apparently his belief is that if he posts inflammatory, bigoted, evil drivel and gets banned, it’s someone else’s fault. Just as all the lawsuits he got slapped with were someone else’s fault, the time he had 7 cop cars chasing him were someone else’s fault, and on and on and on. Apparently, the concept of responsiblity for one’s actions is a completely foreign concept to Bill. To the rest of Bill’s post, all it deserves is a :rolleyes: Fenris ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/14 "2001-10-05T20:43:58Z")
_sigh_ I think Bill may set the record for “Troll That’s Been Allowed to Post The Longest (W/O Previously Being Banned Or Coming Back With Multiple Socks)”. It’ll be the TTBATPTLWOPBBOCBWMS award. But maybe we could name it after him…The Ass-Goblin Record may do nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/15 "2001-10-05T20:48:43Z")
Bill-get this through your head once and for all-NO ONE LIKES ABORTION. BUT, we see it as-a choice each person has to make for herself, and as something that WILL NOT GO AWAY. YOU don’t even want people to learn sex education and birth control-HOW ELSE to stop it? Don’t play abstinance with me because I think it’s been proven for centuries it doesn’t work. Abortion has also been around for centuries. A woman has the right to say she does not want to be a host site. The fetus cannot survive without HER. Why don’t you give a RAT’S ASS for her feelings? Oh, she got pregnant? Dumb slut, should have kept her legs closed. Go to fucking hell, you vile SOB. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/16 "2001-10-05T20:54:50Z")
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Bill’s problem isn’t that he’s evil. He’s stupid. Plain old stupid. I would bet a paycheck that he’s just this side of mentally retarded. Even mentioning his name in the same sentence as Swift is an abomination. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/17 "2001-10-05T20:57:29Z")
I’ll miss you to Gobear. Fenris why I continue to address you I have no idea. But I never said it wasn’t my fault when I got pulled over. And once I am gone how are you ever going to get the post counts and views without flaming me the pit? Guin, you actually some good point before you went back to cussing me out. You got know when to stop typing girl. It’s weird talking to you I feel like I going to die or something so I am getting my last words in to people before it happens. This banning thing is a trip. I don’t really banning? Do you get to come back after a while(time) kind of like cyberspace prison or is it like cyberspace lethal injection Your dead buddy type thing? Would somebody please tell me also do I get a last meal or something? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/18 "2001-10-05T20:58:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > \*\*Even mentioning his name in the same sentence as Swift is an abomination. \*\* I only did so in an attempt to ward off the standard “I wuz jes jokn” defense. It didn’t work, mind you, but it was a try. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/19 "2001-10-05T21:03:12Z")
> [@](#): > > You got know when to stop typing girl Pot. Kettle. Black ---
**Author:** ![ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651/20 "2001-10-05T21:10:59Z")
Why would someone as mindless and non-productive as **Bill** suggest that OTHER people are useless? Is there some reason that Bill finds that it’s HIS duty to decide who is the most valuable on this planet. I am one of the lucky few who got to realize how valuable the old people in my life were BEFORE they were gone. I knew three of my great grandmothers (and only lost the first one when I was 27) and both of my grandmothers, as well as both grandfathers and a great grandfather. Those people provided for me. They provided for me emotionally, psychologically, and sometimes financially. They were good company, taught me a lot, and their stories were never as boring as **Bill’s**. They were (and some of them still are!) wonderful, useful, productive people. My 80 year old grandmother still does volunteer work at the hospital and substitute teaches. My grandfather just wrote me an e-mail yesterday to see how I was doing and tell me how his farming is going this year. How someone as completely lobotomized as **Bill** could take it upon himself to make generalizations about those people is beyond me. It’s about time for a cranial/anal inversion if you ask me. Actually, it’s long past time. What a fucking useless moron. -L [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wildest-bill-you-worthess-piece-of-offal/85651.md?page=2)