# Will a Democratic President be elected in 2028? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 27, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200 "2025-06-27T16:56:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/41 "2025-06-29T19:27:18Z")
Isn’t it going to come down to the same 6-10 “swing states”? Will enough folk in those states change their minds? Or will turnout be drastically different? I’m inclined to think that an America that was venal and stupid enough to elect Trump twice - over vastly better competitors, will likely vote for whomever he designates as his successor. A wacky wildcard would be if Trump does not run again, but is too stupid to anoint a successor. That could be wild. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/42 "2025-06-29T19:37:21Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I’m inclined to think that an America that was venal and stupid enough to elect Trump twice - over vastly better competitors, will likely vote for whomever he designates as his successor. Why do you figure he lost the election in between? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/43 "2025-06-29T20:39:07Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > I don’t think that the bunch of nincompoops that are running Trump can actually pull off a fascist coup I agree, they are just fascist wanna-bes. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > - Elections will take place in 2028 > - Trump will not be on the ballot > - Biden will not be a meaningful issue for any Democrats who run > - The next President will NOT be a Democrat. I agree to all but the last one. The election will be close, unless- The GOP or the Dems run a complete loser, like McGovern or Goldwater. > [@Dr.Drake](#): > > - A Democrat will win in 2028 > - Congress will be close to 50-50 and obstructionist Republicans will make it ineffectual. > - The damage Trump and enablers have done will only really start to become obvious in 2028, when the spin stops and good governance cannot quickly and easily repair what has been damaged or broken. I think these are quite possible. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/44 "2025-06-30T00:18:46Z")
If anyone says they know how things will work out in 2028 they are wrong. The range possibilities goes from Trump successfully running for a third term (or getting away with not having an election in 2028) to the Democrats sweeping presidency and Congress with an unheard of landslide. But no one knows how likely any of these things is relative to each other, we have never faced a political situation like this one (you can draw parallels to say Putin or Orban, but 2028 America is not Russia nor Hungary, nor 1930s Germany, etc.) If you forced me to make a prediction I’d probably err towards things being so so bad by 2028 that no amount of electoral shenanigans can prevent a Democrat win (and also the chances of Trump being in a fit state to speak and feed himself in 2028, let alone pull off a coup to illegally run for a third, are low IMO, and without Trump the GOP’s chances fall a lot). But I have no confidence in that prediction, we are in uncharted territory ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/45 "2025-06-30T11:04:50Z")
Trump will declare some kind of emergency in late 2027 or early 2028, declare martial law nationwide and suspend elections. No, that’s not legal but he’ll do it anyway and this Supreme Court will let him. I think our best hope is that he dies in office before his term is up. And given his declining mental state, there’s a non-zero chance of that. The MAGATs are loyal to him only; Vance can’t command them as he does. Without him the movement splinters and maybe we can get back some semblance of sanity. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/46 "2025-06-30T17:50:34Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Why do you figure he lost the election in between? Yeah - good point. I admit I got no idea why folk came out/stayed home in the past 3 elections, or why significant numbers of folk woulda changed their support for Trump over that cycle. Having him be re-elected - with the strongly R Congress and courts, does not make me sanguine about the chances for 28. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/47 "2025-06-30T17:53:10Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Cynical pessimism is easy. The countries that have become fully fascist in the past have been ethnically homogenous, which is not a feature of America. How large must an ethnic majority be to make a country homogeneous? Ethnic Hungarians made up only 80% of its population when it went fascist in the 1940s. In the US, 60% of the population is non-Hispanic white (admittedly not an ethnicity, but probably a reasonably accurate proxy for cultural affinity). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/48 "2025-06-30T18:28:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > hy do you figure he lost the election in between? Because [**Trump’s own officials say 2020 was America’s most secure election in history**](https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs) a cabal of experts put a lot of effort into insuring a free and fair election, which is the kind that Felon-ONE is not able to win. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/49 "2025-06-30T18:46:53Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > In the US, 60% of the population is non-Hispanic white (admittedly not an ethnicity, but probably a reasonably accurate proxy for cultural affinity). I perceive that what we are currently seeing reflects a sizable portion of that 60% desiring to codify/solidify their preferential status before they drop below 50%. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/50 "2025-06-30T19:16:17Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > If you forced me to make a prediction I’d probably err towards things being so so bad by 2028 that no amount of electoral shenanigans can prevent a Democrat win (and also the chances of Trump being in a fit state to speak and feed himself in 2028, let alone pull off a coup to illegally run for a third, are low IMO, and without Trump the GOP’s chances fall a lot). But I have no confidence in that prediction, we are in uncharted territory This is what I am thinking too. But Trump will try to blame the coming recession/inflation on Biden whatever happens. And the sheepies will buy it. Incidentally, whatever Trump pulls or tries to pull, Obama will not let himself get sucked in to running again. I still remember watching his first inauguration with tears in my eyes. It all seemed so hopeful in 2009. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/51 "2025-06-30T23:14:15Z")
Baathist Iraq was ruled in Fascist fashion by a ~20% minority religio-ethnicity. _Nothing_ about authoritarianism demands ethnic homogeneity. It merely demands religio-ethnic solidarity. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/52 "2025-06-30T23:45:01Z")
ETA: And economic dominance by the wannabe ruling group. Those conditions in the USA are very thoroughly filled by white cis het Xian assholes. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/53 "2025-06-30T23:48:54Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Baathist Iraq was ruled in Fascist fashion by a ~20% minority religio-ethnicity. Except, ba’athist were known to be adamant secularists. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/54 "2025-07-01T00:06:04Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > > > - Elections will take place in 2028 > > - Trump will not be on the ballot > > - Biden will not be a meaningful issue for any Democrats who run > > - The next President will NOT be a Democrat. > > I agree to all but the last one. The election will be close, unless- The GOP or the Dems run a complete loser, like McGovern or Goldwater. Maybe, maybe not. So far Felon 47 is declaring victory on the economy, immigration, egg and gasoline prices dropping and now on cowing Iran in a way no other President has. Of course it is all bullshit but his cult are eating it up and the right-wing media are crowing about the supposed success. Even some of the MSM is repeating the lies. Meanwhile, the Democrats are [fighting internally and short on cash.](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/us/politics/dnc-ken-martin.html?unlocked_article_code=1.TE8.kfDi.KVBfM4khfxZE&smid=url-share). They are failing to come up with a strategy to stop 47 and his minions and the party establishment is attacking the progressive wing which will drive away younger voters. Things have to change soon for there to be hope in '26 much less in '28. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/55 "2025-07-01T01:34:45Z")
Doesn’t matter. Did they rule as a totalitarian minority who were the economic ruling class? Yes. Then they’re a valid prototype for a totalitarian minority economically ruling class here. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/56 "2025-07-02T01:13:06Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Well a long distance (in both time and space): > > 1. There will be a presidential election in 2028 > 2. 45/47 will not be a candidate > 3. The election will be won by the GOP > 4. Within 12 months you’ll wish 45/47 had run and won. 1 and 2, I agree (and for those of you who know me, I will not bring up “that” alternative again). 3 depends on the candidates. If the Democrats push too far to the left (AOC, Sanders, maybe Newsom), I can see the Republicans winning - especially if: Here’s my #4: Trump campaigns with the Republican nominee and promises to be his “right-hand man” (read: the elected President is a combination figurehead head of state - think, say, a Commonwealth Governor-General - and a rubber stamp for Kingmaker Trump). I think Biden’s biggest advantage in 2020 was, he did not come across as too far to the left. The question is, who do the Democrats have that isn’t too far left, and will the Democrats nominate that person? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/57 "2025-07-02T02:26:55Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Here’s my #4: Trump campaigns with the Republican nominee and promises to be his “right-hand man” (read: the elected President is a combination figurehead head of state - think, say, a Commonwealth Governor-General - and a rubber stamp for Kingmaker Trump). Good point. Even if Trump doesn’t run as VP, and if his health holds up (IMHO likely) he will try this. > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The question is, who do the Democrats have that isn’t too far left, and will the Democrats nominate that person? Any Democratic governor would be moderate enough, or be able to pivot. As for non-governors, Sen. Gallego is moderate enough, can deliver his swing state, and will help with a demographic otherwise slipping away from the D column (Latino men). Who the Democrats will nominate is impossible to say. But primary voters are likely more moderate than most Democratic internet posters, so a moderate is more than possible. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/58 "2025-07-02T03:35:52Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Here’s my #4: Trump campaigns with the Republican nominee and promises to be his “right-hand man” (read: the elected President is a combination figurehead head of state - think, say, a Commonwealth Governor-General - and a rubber stamp for Kingmaker Trump). I could see him attempting this, it’s what his boss Putin did at one point (IIRC when Putin was president the PM role was purely ceremonial and the president had all the power, when Putin “stepped down” from the presidency and became PM suddenly the reverse was true) If course I can totally see JD Vance, or whatever scumbag agrees to this, saying “Oh yes your highness, you will have all the power, of course.” As Trump dribbles and led by his nurse to a back room to be fed apple sauce and watch reruns of his 2024 victory. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/59 "2025-07-02T13:19:12Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > > > Here’s my #4: Trump campaigns with the Republican nominee and promises to be his “right-hand man” (read: the elected President is a combination figurehead head of state - think, say, a Commonwealth Governor-General - and a rubber stamp for Kingmaker Trump). > > Good point. Even if Trump doesn’t run as VP, and if his health holds up (IMHO likely) he will try this. Didn’t anyone tell you not to mention “Trump VP in 2028” around me? We don’t need, what, a fourth thread about this? ---
**Author:** ![SlipperyPete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@SlipperyPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlipperyPete)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/60 "2025-07-02T15:20:02Z")
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