# Will a Democratic President be elected in 2028? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 27, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200 "2025-06-27T16:56:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/101 "2025-07-03T20:21:35Z")
> [@TheBryan](#): > > I don’t know if there is any way to sugar coat this, but using the term “woke” in a derogatory fashion is about as racist as you can get. It is, after all, a culturally appropriated word that has roots in African American history. I don’t think most people actually know that, however. I never even recall hearing it before the rightwingers started using it as an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/102 "2025-07-03T20:26:07Z")
You may have seen that the Miami city government [has unilateraly decided to postpone elections](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article309776915.html), giving the current mayor an extra year in office. This is probably not legal and there have already been lawsuits, but I expect to see more of this at the local level and definitely at the federal level in 2028. By “this” I mean some fig leaf (martial law, war with Greenland or California, invasion by Mexican construction workers, whatever) to delay or cancel elections so Trump or his desiccated corpse or JD Vance can remain in office “temporarily”. We should all be well past the point of saying “they can’t do that” or “they wouldn’t try that”. It’s obvious by now that they would. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/103 "2025-07-03T20:54:53Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I’m assuming 26 will see the dems win the house, and maybe the senate too. And we will probably get a democratic president along with a democratic house and senate in 2028. The odds are good for a Dem House in 2026, and not terrible for the senate. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > That after all is one of the most common reasons for people who otherwise oppose the Republicans to not vote Democrat; the belief that both parties are the same, “Both parties are the same” is heavily pushed by the kremlin. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/104 "2025-07-03T21:10:20Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The amygdala is a useful brain structure, but when it dominates mental function we get atavism. The opening narration of [_The Croods_](https://youtu.be/9Fb1NH9zizk) captures that exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/105 "2025-07-04T11:58:08Z")
Moving municipal elections to even numbered years is an idea with merit. But the correct thing to do in Miami would have been to reschedule the ensuing election, not the impending one. Republicans are indeed testing the limits of voters’ willingness to accept more self-serving corruption. I don’t think we’ve seen anywhere near the worst of it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Polarity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7cd45c/32.png) [@Polarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polarity)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/106 "2025-07-04T20:23:52Z")
I don’t think it’s possible for Democrats to transition away from woke ideology. The Democrats could run Mitt Romney for President and he would instantly be called the most extreme leftist, communist, woke, candidate the party has ever chosen. It truly doesn’t matter who it is, they are going to be tagged with that identity regardless. I heard MAGA people local to me last election saying Joe Biden was a socialist, but Harris was just a straight up communist. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/107 "2025-07-04T20:49:31Z")
^Correct. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/108 "2025-07-04T20:52:45Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > We should all be well past the point of saying “they can’t do that” or “they wouldn’t try that”. It’s obvious by now that they would. That is fair, but the flip side of that is that we shouldn’t assume compliance with whatever the fascists decide to do either. Further, we’ve seen Trump back down again and again on a bunch of stuff: tariffs, Abrego Garcia, etc. I personally think the country is a powder keg onto which the fascists keep tossing lit matches. If they make a wrong move or a move too far, we will have a revolution that sweeps away _all_ the bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/109 "2025-07-04T20:54:46Z")
> [@Polarity](#): > > I don’t think it’s possible for Democrats to transition away from woke ideology. Yeah. but that term needs to be dropped, as well as “defund the police”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/110 "2025-07-04T21:00:38Z")
“Woke” won’t recede from the political lexicon just because the left and the Ds quit using it. It will persist undiminished as long as it reliably elicits a rousing “Fuck Yeah!!!” from the MAGAt deplorables and their country-club R backers. Faux _et al_ will see to that. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/111 "2025-07-04T21:09:10Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > we’ve seen Trump back down again and again on a bunch of stuff: tariffs, Abrego Garcia, etc. He hasn’t totally backed down, only partially. There are still tariffs in place, still doing real damage to the US and foreign economies. Ábrego García is still in jail lest he be deported (or, at least, that’s what his lawyers are asking), which is a far cry from being free to live life with your family. In a way, that’s worse, because in addition to being evil it’s also random and harder to work around. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/112 "2025-07-04T21:09:26Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > “Woke” won’t recede from the political lexicon just because the left and the Ds quit using it. > > It will persist undiminished as long as it reliably elicits a rousing “Fuck Yeah!!!” from the MAGAt deplorables and their country-club R backers. Faux _et al_ will see to that. Well, of course. Just like I dont remember any leading Dems seriously suggesting “Defund the Police”, it is a MAGA bug-a-boo. (The ACLU didnt like “defund the police”, they suggested “divest and reinvest” i.e. take _some_ police funding and use it for helping people on drugs, the mentally ill, etc. ) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/113 "2025-07-04T21:14:15Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > He hasn’t totally backed down, only partially. Correct. It’s really the worst of all worlds, both for us the people and for him. We the people get to endure the meaningless and unpleasant chaos that Trump constantly creates. But for Trump, it’s also bad. He doesn’t look like a strong leader, and his opponents (we) know that he can be manipulated and influenced. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/114 "2025-07-04T21:26:39Z")
My larger point being that throughout the 110+ posts I keep hearing people say in effect “We (the Ds) must adopt policies and platforms and terminology to which the Right won’t object.” Which is a fool’s errand. It doesn’t matter what policy or words the Left adopts. The RW propaganda machine will pick (or invent) something to tease them about _and their audience will give them a standing ovation for that_. Stopping the propaganda is a prerequisite for switching away from sports fan team t-shirtism and restarting politics. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/115 "2025-07-04T21:33:18Z")
^Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/116 "2025-07-04T21:58:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > My larger point being that throughout the 110+ posts I keep hearing people say in effect “We (the Ds) must adopt policies and platforms and terminology to which the Right won’t object.” > > Which is a fool’s errand. It doesn’t matter what policy or words the Left adopts. The RW propaganda machine will pick (or invent) something to tease them about _and their audience will give them a standing ovation for that_. True, I concur. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/117 "2025-07-07T06:05:17Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Which is a fool’s errand. It doesn’t matter what policy or words the Left adopts. The RW propaganda machine will pick (or invent) something to tease them about _and their audience will give them a standing ovation for that_. And in many ways the Democrats have _already_ run to the right to try and copy GOP policies. Kamala picking up DJT’s “No Tax On Tips” bullshit is just the first one that comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/118 "2025-07-07T06:26:04Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > And in many ways the Democrats have _already_ run to the right to try and copy GOP policies. They’ve been doing that for years. It never _works,_ but they keep trying no matter how much it alienates their base and how indifferent or hostile the rightwingers they are courting are. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/119 "2025-07-07T09:56:00Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Kamala picking up DJT’s “No Tax On Tips” bullshit is just the first one that comes to mind. That’s not a great example. Yes, it was bullshit when trump said it. And almost impossible to administratively implement honestly. OTOH, it’s exactly the sort of policy aimed at benefiting the low-wage worker that a genuinely lefty worker-friendly party could / should / would go after. Getting more, or all, of the tax burden off the working poor would be a great way to make them the working less-poor. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200/120 "2025-07-07T14:44:42Z")
No, it’s not. It’s a nod and a wink to the idea that person-to-person transactions aren’t income and don’t count. There are fifty thousand ways to make servers’ lives easier, starting with insisting on the same base salary as non-tipped workers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-a-democratic-president-be-elected-in-2028/1020200.md?page=7)