# Will Arabs eventually take over the United States?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640 "2012-05-02T14:17:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/81 "2012-05-02T18:01:05Z")

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> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#):
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> Why do you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own?

Don’t you think that’s a trifle ironic given the fact that you’re arguing that Arab-Muslim-Al Qaedas will take over the U.S. despite the notable handicap of being less than two percent of the population?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/82 "2012-05-02T18:08:08Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Don’t you think that’s a trifle ironic given the fact that you’re arguing that Arab-Muslim-Al Qaedas will take over the U.S. despite the notable handicap of being less than two percent of the population?

Ah, but they’re cunning. And coy! If they turn out to be curious, they’ll hit the trifecta.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/83 "2012-05-02T18:10:55Z")

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Today’s menu of punctuation:  
Exclamation point: $1.00  
Question mark: $1.00  
Period: SOLD OUT!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/84 "2012-05-02T18:11:05Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Ah, but they’re cunning. And coy! If they turn out to be curious, they’ll hit the trifecta.

Singular, dammit. HE is cunning. And coy. The Mohammedan, that is.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/85 "2012-05-02T18:12:08Z")

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> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#):
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> Why do you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own?

Tell me about you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own.

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/86 "2012-05-02T18:19:04Z")

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> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#):
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> I"ll give you a hint–They populate more babies than we do. our fertility rate is going down! We won’t catch up on birth rates!

So is your solution to populate more of our babies, to fight back against the numbers of babies that they are in the works of populating?  
And to the south of us, we have Mexicans populating, should we be worried about them also?  
How the hell we gonna catch up?  
Yikes, this is a nightmare!:eek:

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/87 "2012-05-02T18:24:03Z")

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> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#):
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> Why do you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own?

Threatened? Don’t flatter yourself. Your opinions are mockery gold.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/88 "2012-05-02T18:27:21Z")

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Wow, I’ve been attacked what, four times over three hours by a single poster that quoted just one snarky comment of mine? That must be some kind of record! I’ve had worse insults thrown at me, but just never so many in response to one post. I really touched a nerve…

In any case, I don’t think Arabs are going to take over the United States because Arabs live in the Middle East. When people come here, live, work, go to school, start families, and lead normal lives, they become Americans.

Salafists aren’t going to take over the United States because there are so few of them, nobody agrees with them, and Americans overwhelmingly like our society and system of laws, even though we may argue on the details.

I think any hysteria on Muslims taking over our country is based on irrationality, xenophobia, intolerance, fear, and similar inexcusable reasons. There is no chance at all that our general system of government (including the principles stemming from common law) is going to be overturned, either incrementally or in a revolution, in the coming decades. If anyone really thinks our government is so precarious, they are not thinking clearly.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/89 "2012-05-02T18:32:02Z")

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Europe, on the other hand… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/90 "2012-05-02T18:32:47Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Alright, I’ll keep helping you out. Taking into account the birth rate gap and immigration data, [here](http://www.pewforum.org/The-Future-of-the-Global-Muslim-Population.aspx)is the conclusion from Pew:So there you go - by 2030 Muslims will be all the way up to 1.7% of the US population. Surely ripe grounds for a takeover. :dubious:

Thanks for bringing this up. I need our local neighborhood watch to keep on eye on those Episcopalians - who knows that they are up to! There are more of them than the Muslims!

Next thing you know we have to have the Queen as the head of our theocracy, our beer will be warm, and we will have to rename football to handegg while soccer becomes football.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/91 "2012-05-02T18:35:00Z")

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> [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](#):
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> Yeah, it’s perfectly easy to imagine that a group that makes up less than 1% of America’s population and who most Americans regard as being on the same moral level as pedophiles and Nazis would be able to gain enough political influence and power to take over the country and impose Sharia law.

Do we like Muslims more than the atheists though (just to keep things humming along SDMB religion-wise)?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/92 "2012-05-02T18:35:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Europe, on the other hand… 🙂

Oh yeah, they’re totally screwed.

Did you see the ankles on today’s Page 3 girl? Yowza!

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/93 "2012-05-02T18:44:58Z")

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> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#):
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> The extreme liberals are so afraid of offending them that they let some U.S. courts consider it.

There are no liberals in favor of Sharia law.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/94 "2012-05-02T18:46:27Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Uh, no. Shari`a courts can make extra-legal decisions about certain matters of religious doctrines for members of Muslim communities who agree to abide by such decisions.
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> Just as rabbinical courts in the US can make decisions according to Jewish religious law about dietary law compliance, divorce, and other matters for Jews who follow such laws. And councils of elders in Christian churches can resolve disputes among their congregations, etc.
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> But none of these extra-legal arbitration systems is going to be officially adopted in place of actual US law, nor are they going to be applied to people of different faiths against their will.

Ah, but under some circumstances parties can contractually oblige themselves to abide by the determinations of one of these extra-legal religious courts. And then, when the “losing” party fails to abide by that determination, they can be sued in the real courts, and the real courts might require that the religious verdict be upheld. And then fearmongers can run about claiming that the courts are enforcing Sharia law, when in fact the courts are just enforcing the private contract.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/95 "2012-05-02T18:46:56Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Tell me about you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own.

Is “tell me about …” some kind of meme?

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**Author:** ![opmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9d8465/32.png) [@opmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/opmike)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/96 "2012-05-02T18:49:15Z")

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OP, are you being entirely serious here? Don’t give me some out of left field rant, answer the question. Are you genuinely concerned that Arabs will take over the country?

I get the feeling you’re trying to get a rise out of people, and you’re absolutely refusing to respond to points being made. Someone counters your claim, and you just come up with a new one.

This is great debates, not a soap box. What is it you want to debate?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/97 "2012-05-02T18:52:38Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Is “tell me about …” some kind of meme?

[ELIZA.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/98 "2012-05-02T18:54:21Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Is “tell me about …” some kind of meme?

It’s not a meme as such, but it is a reference to [Eliza](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA)and similar programs that ape a conversation by restating everything you say as a question, albeit in a weirdly distinctive broken syntax.

e:f;b

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/99 "2012-05-02T19:01:40Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Today’s menu of punctuation:  
> Exclamation point: $1.00  
> Question mark: $1.00  
> Period: SOLD OUT!

Entertainment value: priceless.

> [@Algher](#):
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> our beer will be warm, and we will have to rename football to handegg while soccer becomes football.

_shudder_

I like my beer COLD, thank you. I also like my tv loud, and my homosexuals faaalammming!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/100 "2012-05-02T19:04:15Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> and my homosexuals faaalammming!

Islamic fundamentalists might be willing to meet you halfway on that one.

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