# Will Arabs eventually take over the United States?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640 "2012-05-02T14:17:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/141 "2012-05-03T14:04:07Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Did Rush Limbaugh or some other gasbag rant for 3 hours about Sharia today? I saw a Sharia with a red line bumper sticker today and I just laughed at the idiocy of it. Has any member of any of the 51 legislatures in the United States sponsored a bill for the adoption of Sharia law? Is it going to go anywhere? No.

On the plus side, here’s another issue that Obama can take credit for. “You’re worried about Sharia right? It has gained zero traction during my presidency. You’re welcome.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/142 "2012-05-03T14:11:34Z")

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> [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](#):
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> I was going to guess a prison in BFE, Norway.

Again, not appropriate for GD. I’ll be shutting this down if the OP doesn’t return and make a coherent argument some time soon.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/143 "2012-05-03T14:16:30Z")

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**Marley** , are you playing the part of Vladimir or Estragon?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/144 "2012-05-03T14:24:07Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> BFE?

“Bum-fuck Egypt,” meaning “out in the middle of nowhere.” Similar in meaning to “Hicksville” or “out in the boondocks.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/145 "2012-05-03T14:28:21Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> **Marley** , are you playing the part of Vladimir or Estragon?

Whichever one says “We could hang ourselves.” :smack:

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/146 "2012-05-03T14:33:01Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’ll be shutting this down if the OP doesn’t return and make a coherent argument some time soon.

I’m hoping he’ll at least come back and give us the definitive spelling of the Evil Terrorist Mastermind Org. Apparently they’ve taken up the mantle of [the late unlamented dictator of Libya](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/513/how-are-you-supposed-to-spell-muammar-gaddafi-khadafy-qadhafi) in the confusion-sowing business.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/147 "2012-05-03T14:36:34Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Whichever one says “We could hang ourselves.” :smack:

Estragon it is, then.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/148 "2012-05-03T14:40:49Z")

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Marley, try saying: " People are bloody ignorant apes. "

Did it feel natural? You might be Estragon.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/149 "2012-05-03T15:31:03Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> “Bum-fuck Egypt,” meaning “out in the middle of nowhere.” Similar in meaning to “Hicksville” or “out in the boondocks.”

Ah! Doesn’t work well together with a named country though. “Bum-fuck Egypt, Norway” sounds more like a roadtrip porn movie

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/150 "2012-05-03T16:02:16Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You have the freedom to say things that are stupid.
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> And I have the freedom to say that you’re stupid for saying those things.
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> See how that works?

Of course, outside of The BBQ Pit on the SDMB you do not have the right to say another poster is stupid, so you are not going to do that, here.

[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/151 "2012-05-03T16:07:02Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> No, no. The Chinese are wily and inscrutable. The Jews like watermelon and have natural rhythm. Wait, that’s not right. Damn the sloppy editing in my copy of Xenophobia for Dummies!

Aaargh! Singular! The Chinaman is wily and inscrutable. The Jew is… whatever it is that he is. And so on. For Dummies indeed.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/152 "2012-05-03T16:09:37Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> Ah! Doesn’t work well together with a named country though. “Bum-fuck Egypt, Norway” sounds more like a roadtrip porn movie

“BFE _name of a place_” is a common construction in colloquial American speech. I suppose “Bum-fuck Norway” would work better.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/153 "2012-05-03T16:12:10Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> How do you know when he was referring to “Al Q **u** aeda” that he was referring to the terrorist organization.
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> Al Q **u** aeda means “the base” in Arabic and also is the title of Arabic translations of Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead”.
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> Perhaps he was referring to the growing influence and popularity of Ayn Rand and the legions of Randroids which threaten to take over the US.
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> Also, “Al Q **u** aeda” is the Arabic translation of Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” so it’s possible he was talking about the timeless popularity and influence of Isaac Asimov’s books which even decades later still hold up and continue to inspire generations of fans and new writers.

I want to go back in time and shoot whatever moron thought “q” was a good transliteration for the Arabic letter “qaaf”. Fucking extraneous u’s.

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**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/154 "2012-05-03T16:16:48Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I want to go back in time and shoot whatever moron thought “q” was a good transliteration for the Arabic letter “qaaf”. Fucking extraneous u’s.

Qwit your complaining. Or should I say, less QQ please… 😃

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/155 "2012-05-03T16:24:12Z")

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We need to be more concerned with coyotes.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/156 "2012-05-03T16:26:19Z")

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Quyotes

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/157 "2012-05-03T18:16:30Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I want to go back in time and shoot whatever moron thought “q” was a good transliteration for the Arabic letter “qaaf”. Fucking extraneous u’s.

To be fair, though, the roman letter “q”, like the archaic Greek “qoppa” and the Hebrew “qof”, **is** the most closely related palaeographically to Arabic “qaaf”. All of them are descended from the same character in the ancient [Phoenician alphabet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet).

Just because the Romans decided that [they weren’t going to use “q” except in the “qu” digraph to represent the “kw” sound](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-46487.html) doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use “q” by itself as the historically appropriate transliteration of qaaf/qof/qoppa.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/158 "2012-05-03T19:21:43Z")

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Qwat?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/159 "2012-05-03T19:25:56Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Quyotes

Al-Quyote does conjure up the image of Osama as Wile E.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/160 "2012-05-03T20:16:28Z")

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If only the US had an amendment to the Constitution that prohibited the establishment of a national religion…

That would be awesome!

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