# Will Arabs eventually take over the United States? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 2, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640 "2012-05-02T14:17:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/161 "2012-05-03T20:23:44Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Al-Quyote does conjure up the image of Osama as Wile E. Now I want **Uil-e-Quyote** as a Dopername. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/162 "2012-05-03T20:53:14Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Now I want **Uil-e-Quyote** as a Dopername. Wa’el ul-Quyote. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/163 "2012-05-03T21:35:28Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Now I want **Uil-e-Quyote** as a Dopername. He orders a lot from Al’qme. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/164 "2012-05-03T21:46:58Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > He orders a lot from Al’qme. At long last, I will eat that Road Runner (inshallah)! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/165 "2012-05-03T21:51:04Z")
5 to 1 that **[mkeith135@gmail.com](mailto:mkeith135@gmail.com)** never returns, or returns only to call us all Communists & Traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/166 "2012-05-03T21:53:28Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > 5 to 1 that **[mkeith135@gmail.com](mailto:mkeith135@gmail.com)** never returns, or returns only to call us all Communists & Traitors. I was going to contact him to see if he had anything to say…but he didn’t put his email address in his profile. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/167 "2012-05-03T22:05:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I was going to contact him to see if he had anything to say…but he didn’t put his email address in his profile. Snerk. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/168 "2012-05-03T23:21:29Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Wa’el ul-Quyote. That. That’s what I want. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/169 "2012-05-04T08:47:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > You’d think Arabic would have an actual word for “fountainhead.” The Arabs do seem to like their fountains. The actual Arabic word for fountainhead is منبع [_manba‘_](http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%86%D8%A8%D8%B9) (a noun of place from the verbal root meaning ‘to well up’, literally ‘a place where water wells up’). I’m at a loss as to why the translator or publisher would render it as _qā‘idah_, which means ‘base’; its derivation as a participle of the verbal root meaning ‘to sit’ makes it literally ‘that which sits’. Ironically, the essentially same word is used in the Qur’an to mean combat slackers, those who sit at home when they’re supposed to be going out and fighting. As for the Foundation Trilogy, I think _qā‘idah_ is nearer in meaning, though not the best translation; foundation in the sense that Asimov used it, an organization intended to serve a long-term goal, is _mu’assasah_. I approve of the use of the letter Q to transliterate Arabic _qāf_, because it serves as a lint trap for morons when they try to stick an unwarranted U after it. ---
**Author:** ![DukemNukem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/74df32/32.png) [@DukemNukem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DukemNukem)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/170 "2012-05-04T09:22:09Z")
He makes 4-5 posts and every single person ridicules what he wrote. Sure what he wrote was inappropriate and misinformed however I feel that much of what has been written in all 4 pages was unnecessary although very funny. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/171 "2012-05-04T12:40:28Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > …I approve of the use of the letter Q to transliterate Arabic _qāf_, because it serves as a lint trap for morons when they try to stick an unwarranted U after it. Let me further direct the thread drift away from its silly premise. In a recent episode of _Game of Thrones_, Dany (hottie Mother of Dragons) tried to gain her ragtag band admittance to the great city of Qarth. Except she misprounced it: Quarth. She was corrected… ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/172 "2012-05-04T13:28:56Z")
> [@DukemNukem](#): > > He makes 4-5 posts and every single person ridicules what he wrote. Sure what he wrote was inappropriate and misinformed however I feel that much of what has been written in all 4 pages was unnecessary although very funny. Unnecessary snark is one of the things we do best. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/173 "2012-05-04T13:34:57Z")
> [@DukemNukem](#): > > He makes 4-5 posts and every single person ridicules what he wrote. Sure what he wrote was inappropriate and misinformed however I feel that much of what has been written in all 4 pages was unnecessary although very funny. Actually nine or so, all of which are ridiculous. And the appropriate response to ridiculous things is generally ridicule. But let’s have a look at what he said: > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > I’m worried about the state of the world regarding Sharia Law. Will the United States eventually be submitted to Sharia Law? The extreme liberals are so afraid of offending them that they let some U.S. courts consider it. The Muslims are very cunning and coy. They know how to play the I just want my religious freedom card. I wonder if in 20-30 years the women will be wearing berkas and jahibs (not sure of the spelling but it’s the head and face covering). America needs to wake up! If U.S. women are as liberated as they say they are, they will have no rights if this law is passed. They’ll submit to the men. What do all of you think? Will if be in our lifetime in the next 20-30 years or (cringe) sooner like 10-12? So we start off with hyperbolic panic as a premise, based on some blatantly incorrect assumptions. And yet the first page of this thread has several factual responses to them. But the OP doesn’t seem to take kindly to criticism: > [@Marley23](#): > > There’s never going to be Sharia law in the U.S., and please educate yourself on the difference between Muslims and Arabs. > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > I do know the difference! …which is then proved false. Attempts to point out the hyperbole are not taken lightly: > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > How about if they take away your rights as a pompous smart alec? > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > Hey smart alec! FYI I’m not one of those religious nut, but I"ll bet you’ll be leading the pack of muslims in Al Kaeda! > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > Laugh it up buddy! You’re underestimating th power of Al-Quada. > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > Yeah! Talk to me when you have no freedom. My heart will be bleeding for you! He does attempt another go at presenting an actual argument but again, it’s low on facts: > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > I"ll give you a hint–They populate more babies than we do. our fertility rate is going down! We won’t catch up on birth rates! And further criticism is likewise dismissed: > [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > Why do you feel so threatened by an opinion other than your own? And you call yourself a liberal? On top of all that, we’ve been down this road before - look up **Valteron** threads sometime. The spittle-spraying hysterical fear that Muslims will somehow sneak into our countries, secretly breed at an astonishing rate until they’re the majority, and then impose Saudi Arabia-style laws upon the helpless populace is not merely a minor disagreement of opinion, it requires a full disconnect of any critical thinking functions to swallow. The OP presented an argument based on ignorance. We are a board dedicated to fighting ignorance. If occasionally we find it easier to just nuke the site from orbit it’s only because we’ve seen how these things go already and are trying to save ourselves the time. And I’m guessing that since the OP hasn’t come back since the last word from Estragon there, this thread is headed for lockdown anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/174 "2012-05-04T13:42:43Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > the appropriate response to ridiculous things is generally ridicule. Do you you have some qind of cite for that? It sounds wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/175 "2012-05-04T13:44:50Z")
> [@DukemNukem](#): > > He makes 4-5 posts and every single person ridicules what he wrote. Sure what he wrote was inappropriate and misinformed however I feel that much of what has been written in all 4 pages was unnecessary although very funny. In fact, quite a few posts have seriously addressed his argument (such as it is). I’d estimate that he’s getting about 30% serious, 70% mock, and that the 30% is rather more than the OP really deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/176 "2012-05-04T14:34:35Z")
[mkeith135@gmail.com](mailto:mkeith135@gmail.com), we already know that the [Republicans elected a muslim loving homo](http://prophetofdoom.net/pics/Islamic_Clubs_Taliban/George_W_Bush_Prince_Abdullah_kiss_hold_hands.jpg). Since then, the Democrats elected someone who has been proven to not be a muslim or a homo. You will agree, then, that the USA has changed direction and is moving away from rather than toward shariah law, and that the very best thing an American can do to avoid the muslims from taking over again is to re-elect the Democrat President. ---
**Author:** ![jeturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@jeturgeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeturgeon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/177 "2012-05-05T07:28:52Z")
> [@mkeith135\_gmail.com](#): > > I’m worried about the state of the world regarding Sharia Law. Will the United States eventually be submitted to Sharia Law? The extreme liberals are so afraid of offending them that they let some U.S. courts consider it. The Muslims are very cunning and coy. They know how to play the I just want my religious freedom card. I wonder if in 20-30 years the women will be wearing berkas and jahibs (not sure of the spelling but it’s the head and face covering). America needs to wake up! If U.S. women are as liberated as they say they are, they will have no rights if this law is passed. They’ll submit to the men. What do all of you think? Will if be in our lifetime in the next 20-30 years or (cringe) sooner like 10-12? Are you a tad drunker than I am right now, or completely out of you mind? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/178 "2012-05-05T11:01:22Z")
> [@jeturgeon](#): > > Are you a tad drunker than I am right now, or completely out of you mind? Address the argument or take it to The BBQ Pit. Do not post personal insults in Great Debates. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640/179 "2012-05-06T04:54:29Z")
The OP has not shown any interest in continuing this thread over the last few days, and since the discussion has gone so far off track, it’s not worth the effort to continually try to keep people from breaking the rules. So I’m finally closing this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-arabs-eventually-take-over-the-united-states/620640.md?page=8)