# Will "BHENGAZI-GATE" screw up Hitlery's chances in 2016? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888 "2013-05-09T13:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/381 "2013-05-13T21:59:48Z")
> [@](#): > > …[A]n act of terror is different than a terrorist attack… Darrell Issa, by way of our good friends at Daily Kos > **[Finally, an explanation why Benghazi is such a scandal!](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/13/1208843/-Finally-an-explanation-why-Benghazi-is-such-a-scandal?detail=hide)** > > Darrell Issa, the guy leading the charge on the Benghazi House "investigation," finally offers a cogent explanation (at 0:59) why this is the worst scandal in American history: > > \[A\]n act of terror ... ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/382 "2013-05-13T22:00:19Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Nobody who counts. Hi, butthole. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/383 "2013-05-13T22:00:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re saying she won’t run because she’s old, not that she’s too old to be president or that old people are incompetent or something. Is that a distinction without a difference? > [@](#): > > Is it that hard? I didn’t think so, until now… > [@](#): > > McCain is still around, but Congress is only in session about 120 days a year and his job at this point is being grouchy he lost to Obama. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/384 "2013-05-13T22:05:23Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > What is it with you kids? Why the hate on old folks? > > McCain is still kicking… he’d a made both terms had he won! 😃 Yeh, and we’d be in a full-blown shooting-war with Iran, as soon as they failed to meet his 30-day deadline to GET OFF HIS LAWN!!! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/385 "2013-05-13T22:09:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re saying she won’t run because she’s old, not that she’s too old to be president or that old people are incompetent or something. Old people **grow** incompetent and you never know when it’s coming. Reagan was showing signs of Alzheimer’s at least for his last year in office, maybe the last two years. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/386 "2013-05-13T22:09:52Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Is that a distinction without a difference? No. They’re saying ‘I don’t think she will run because she’s old.’ Not ‘the president shouldn’t be an old person.’ The distinction is pretty obvious. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Old people **grow** incompetent and you never know when it’s coming. Did you grow incompetent at 6:08 PM? ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/387 "2013-05-13T22:51:13Z")
Biden is already 70 - kiddoes - are you saying if something happenned to Obama - that Biden would be declared TOO OLD to assume Presidency? Yes or No? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/388 "2013-05-13T22:53:34Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > Biden is already 70 - kiddoes - are you saying if something happenned to Obama - that Biden would be declared TOO OLD to assume Presidency? > > Yes or No? No . . but if 2012 had been a contested Dem primary with Biden in it, I probably would’ve voted for someone else, just because of the age thing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/389 "2013-05-13T23:58:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, dear Lord. The horror. The horror. He’s yours. Now you have to make sure his water bowl is full, and you DEFINITELY have to clean up after him. ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/390 "2013-05-14T00:10:40Z")
I only started this thread as a response to a video-tape ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/391 "2013-05-14T00:23:21Z")
You sure told that videotape! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/392 "2013-05-14T00:28:08Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > I only started this thread as a response to a video-tape Straight Dope Message Board, the Pit: official forum for response to random videos. How come no one told me? I got a ton of stuff I could get off my chest. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/393 "2013-05-14T01:32:32Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > "Tthat was my question. " > > Oh. > > I see now. > > "It is still No man on Earth has no belly-button, it proves every believer on Earth a liar. > [@Habakkuk3](#): > > May now. > Dew and chill seem April though > I wont kill No human has 2 hands as they are opposites, like plus and minus, that cancel as entity. > [@Habakkuk3](#): > > myself" > > (a Spring haiku) **I am a Knower** of 4 corner **simultaneous 24 hour Days** that occur within a single 4 corner rotation of Earth. Benghazicube. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/394 "2013-05-14T04:19:36Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > **I am a Knower** of 4 corner > **simultaneous 24 hour Days** > that occur within a single > 4 corner rotation of Earth. > > Benghazicube. That is perhaps the most moving thing I’ve ever read on here. It truly brought a tear to my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/395 "2013-05-14T04:52:23Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > No man on Earth has no belly-button . . . I believe there are a few; it could come about as an unintended result of abdominal surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Doggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Doggo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doggo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/396 "2013-05-14T05:52:33Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Read the timeline. They didn’t have the intel necessary to send people in for hours. > > Read the timeline and get back to me. Screw the timeline. If the order had been given to send aircraft/ people to Libya, it would have been about 3 hours before they arrived. Had the intel then indicated that they could be used, they would be in position to be used instead of still being in Italy. Had the intel still not been available they could have waited in the air till the limits of their fuel was reached, or they could have landed in Tripoli. Not doing anything at all is wrong in so many ways. ---
**Author:** ![Doggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Doggo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doggo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/397 "2013-05-14T06:02:11Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > An attack caused by a video could still be a terrorist attack first off. The information they had in the initial hours was tenuous and required time to vet. When the attack happened they didn’t know who did it, so not saying as much is reasonable. Do you disagree? > > In any case, Obama called it a terrorist attack. And even if he didn’t, so fucking what? > > The vapid stupidity of your argument is so profound, I want to build a giant limestone monument to it. So explain to me why, when they knew it was a pre planned terrorist attack, Obama told the UN and the world that it was all about a VDO. ---
**Author:** ![Doggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Doggo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doggo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/398 "2013-05-14T06:11:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > No, the attack didn’t “go on for three hours”. The claim that some sort of all-night siege occurred is a blatant lie. There were _two_ separate attacks; one which lasted about half an hour and was successfully repelled by local police (it was during this attack that Stevens died), and another which occurred about five hours later and lasted about an hour, during which the two contractors were killed. > > It would not have been possible for forces in Italy to reach Libya between the period when either fight started and ended, and in any event they wouldn’t have been able to refuel because those resources weren’t available. Yes, apparently the “best military in the world” couldn’t respond to an attack on American soil ( the consulate ) because it didn’t have the ability to refuel. Surely that is grounds for an investigation all on its own. Since when do American aircraft need to refuel after only 3 hours flying time. If this was after Pearl Harbour, and they were considering sending planes to bomb Tokyo, I don’t think they would have done it, because there weren’t any refuelling planes available. What just happened to the US military- lose it’s guts perhaps, or did the loony tunes take over? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/399 "2013-05-14T07:41:39Z")
You keep saying “3 hours” like it would have been a one-way trip. Were you expecting the pilots to swim back to Italy? Oh, and BTW, consulates aren’t “American soil”, and the Benghazi annex wasn’t a consulate anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/400 "2013-05-14T09:23:05Z")
I definitely think the Republicans should keep fucking that particular chicken, because [it’s working so well for them](http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/05/voters-trust-clinton-over-gop-on-benghazi.html): > [@](#): > > Voters trust Hillary Clinton over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Benghazi by a 49/39 margin and Clinton’s +8 net favorability rating at 52/44 is identical to what it was on our last national poll in late March. Meanwhile Congressional Republicans remain very unpopular with a 36/57 favorability rating. > > Voters think Congress should be more focused on other major issues right now rather than Benghazi. By a 56/38 margin they say passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is more important than continuing to focus on Benghazi, and by a 52/43 spread they think passing a bill requiring background checks for all gun sales should be a higher priority. In the meantime, Congressional Republicans are upsetting [another group entirely](http://www.freewoodpost.com/2013/05/13/terrorists-behind-benghazi-upset-that-republicans-keep-blaming-it-on-obama/) by continuing this line of inquiry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=21)