# Will "BHENGAZI-GATE" screw up Hitlery's chances in 2016? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888 "2013-05-09T13:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/601 "2013-05-24T01:26:04Z")
> [@Doggo](#): > > And you actually believe anything a politician says, hahahahahahahaha. You must be really stupid! From whom is it that you get all the things that you believe, Doggo? Such as your belief that President Obama gave a speech at the UN and was seen on TV by millions but someone must have told you that Obama told the UN is was the Video to blame for the attack at Benghazi, according to you: “And, you still haven’t said why Obama told the UN it was the VDO, when he knew it was not.” -Doggo So since he did no such thing, it means you ‘made it up’ (a no-no) for honest people with integrity or some politician or right wing pundit ‘told’ you that and you ‘believed’ them. Doesn’t say much in your favor does it? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/602 "2013-05-24T09:13:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The thing that will screw up Hillary’s campaign will be the same thing that’s hung over her head for a long time: her hawkishness. She’s Joe Lieberman with more name recognition and a bigger following. > > All it will take to upend her will be for an insurgent Democrat who is more liberal to get a lot of attention. Who says Democrats cannot be hawkish. With voters I think it is more about smart hawkish or stupid hawkish ‘ala’ the 43’rd President. Anyway this is not stupid hawkishness. This is brilliant hawkishness and hawkishness with principles and conviction. This is from a great speech. Anyone who makes comments on Senator Clinton’s Hawkishness in 2002 should read it. > [@](#): > > President Bush’s speech in Cincinnati and the changes in policy that have come forth since the Administration began broaching this issue some weeks ago have made my vote easier. Even though the resolution before the Senate is not as strong as I would like in requiring the diplomatic route first and placing highest priority on a simple, clear requirement for unlimited inspections, I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible. > > Because bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely, and therefore, war less likely, and because a good faith effort by the United States, even if it fails, will bring more allies and legitimacy to our cause, I have concluded, after careful and serious consideration, that a vote for the resolution best serves the security of our nation. If we were to defeat this resolution or pass it with only a few Democrats, I am concerned that those who want to pretend this problem will go way with delay will oppose any UN resolution calling for unrestricted inspections. > > This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make – any vote that may lead to war should be hard – but I cast it with conviction. > > (October 10, 2002 Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq) That speech was given prior to UN inspectors returning to Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2013, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/603 "2013-05-24T10:09:35Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > From whom is it that you get all the things that you believe, Doggo? I’m guessing the voices in his head, which speak with Sean Hannity’s voice. We can only offer our pity to this poor, poor man. ---
**Author:** ![Molesworth\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Molesworth\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molesworth_2)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/604 "2013-05-25T20:23:45Z")
What happened in Libya is clearly the biggest scandal in US politics since Richard Nixon resigned in the wake of Waterghazi. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/605 "2013-05-25T20:27:06Z")
You’re not including all the corruption and bribery uncovered by Whitewatergateghazi? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/606 "2013-05-26T02:22:58Z")
> [@Molesworth\_2](#): > > What happened in Libya is clearly the biggest scandal in US politics since Richard Nixon resigned in the wake of Waterghazi. Define the alleged crime that happened in Libya. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/607 "2013-05-26T03:06:56Z")
Hillary and Vince Foster’s zombie tried to reanimate the corpse of Gadaffy using an illegally-downloaded program hacked out of Richard Nixon’s library. ---
**Author:** ![Molesworth\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Molesworth\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molesworth_2)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/608 "2013-05-26T15:19:04Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > Define the alleged crime that happened in Libya. There was no crime in Libya. If you didn’t see the obvious sarcasm dripping off my post when I referred to Nixon being involved in “Waterghazi” then I’m afraid I can’t help you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/609 "2013-05-26T18:31:51Z")
Some of our dopers suffer from sarcastic anemia, irony-poor blood. There is no cure. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/610 "2013-05-26T19:06:01Z")
[For the sarcasm impaired.](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4t2mqPMLw1rshcrgo1_500.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/611 "2013-05-26T20:42:41Z")
But . . . but . . . but . . . there _ **must** _ be a crime in Libya! Why else would members of Congress, who have so many weighty matters\* on their hands and minds, devote so much of their valuable time to the matter? \*Such as making sure that only the right people — 70-plus-year-old men — are in charge of women’s reproductive choices. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/612 "2013-05-26T22:56:51Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Hillary and Vince Foster’s zombie tried to reanimate the corpse of Gadaffy using an illegally-downloaded program hacked out of Richard Nixon’s library. I think a 3d printer was involved. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/613 "2013-05-27T17:01:02Z")
> [@Molesworth\_2](#): > > There was no crime in Libya. > > If you didn’t see the obvious sarcasm dripping off my post when I referred to Nixon being involved in “Waterghazi” then I’m afraid I can’t help you. Feigning sarcasm is a favorite tool used by Republicans so that their like-minded ill-informed masses can absorb lies more readily. I see no point in aiding abetting that process. So many on the right can’t tell the difference and specifically if they don’t know the background of whoever is using sarcasm… ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/614 "2013-05-27T21:32:47Z")
Do cats like sheepskin bathmats? Why, yes they do. They like to sleep on them, they like to make happy feet on them. They like to pounce on them and slide them all over the bathrooms. Last but certainly not least, they just LOVE to flipping puke on them. The best fun is to puke on them while a human is in the shower and so won’t know that there is a hairball mine waiting for them when they get out. Flipping cats, I’m so ready to trade them all in for a pet rock now. I understand pet rocks are great pets, they don’t puke on bathmats, they don’t chase balls in the middle of the night and they don’t get stuck in trash cans. But if they do get stuck in trash cans, they are pretty easy to bathe. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/615 "2013-05-27T22:07:16Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > Do cats like sheepskin bathmats? Why, yes they do. They like to sleep on them, they like to make happy feet on them. They like to pounce on them and slide them all over the bathrooms. > > Last but certainly not least, they just LOVE to flipping puke on them. The best fun is to puke on them while a human is in the shower and so won’t know that there is a hairball mine waiting for them when they get out. > > Flipping cats, I’m so ready to trade them all in for a pet rock now. I understand pet rocks are great pets, they don’t puke on bathmats, they don’t chase balls in the middle of the night and they don’t get stuck in trash cans. But if they do get stuck in trash cans, they are pretty easy to bathe. I’m a little slow here, **flatlined** , what does this have to do with the OP? Or did you just accidentally post to the wrong thread? (Not trying to be a jerk here.) ---
**Author:** ![elbowj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9adbd/32.png) [@elbowj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbowj)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/616 "2013-05-29T04:52:10Z")
So one of the primary Congressional critics over Benghazi got to hear some classified information that might be of interest to our friendly keyboard generals. A senior House Republican says U.S. military forces weren’t in a position to help those under attack at a U.S. diplomatic post in Libya because the State Department had failed to ask the Pentagon for help in securing the compound before the raid. So now its back to the lame, they should have been prepared. Yawntastic. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/617 "2013-05-29T13:22:43Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > i’m a little slow here, **flatlined** , what does this have to do with the op? Or did you just accidentally post to the wrong thread? (not trying to be a jerk here.) lol 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/618 "2013-05-29T14:47:13Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > I’m a little slow here, **flatlined** , what does this have to do with the OP? Or did you just accidentally post to the wrong thread? (Not trying to be a jerk here.) Any thread with “Hitlery” in the title is just inviting cat puke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=30)