# Will "BHENGAZI-GATE" screw up Hitlery's chances in 2016? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888 "2013-05-09T13:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/81 "2013-05-09T20:21:51Z")
In what sense is this “trolling”? I come here - open a thread - use the term “Hitlery” rather than Hillary (not exactly trying to HIDE my sentiments) sort of saying up front from the get-gothat I am not a libbie demmie Leftwing lover anymore - but “trolling” - by what what definition? I asked a question about the effects of a current event on the 2016 election - got my thread moved to the BBQ Pit not at my request - it was orginally in ELECTIONS - How am I a troll? or is that you alleged free-thinkers cannot tolerate my viewpoint and can only respond with ad hominems like “doesnt know the English language” - “is a RW Conspiracist” etc etc “is not smart enough to be here” she stupes and stoops and stups to conquer - but does not schtup ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/82 "2013-05-09T20:25:11Z")
I think Hillary (or Hitlery, or Hillary Clintonitler, or Hitlery Stalinton, or Clitory Hilton Bathory or whatever) could personally mow down Tea Party protesters with an Uzi on the White House lawn and it’s not going to much affect her chances in 2016 for the simple reason that 2016 is three years away ([cite](https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&gs_mss=2%2C016%20-%202%2C013&tok=vzbJhPSNs9DqBBjqBmvn1Q&pq=2%2C016%20-%202%2C013&cp=5&gs_id=2l&xhr=t&q=calculator&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=caluc&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=1&biw=900&bih=579&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&cad=b)) and public memory is about 90 days, if that. Personally I don’t think she’s going to be a contender anyway due to her age and the fact she was already divisive before most people now wailing ever heard of Benghazi (I started to say before they could find it on a map, but I seriously doubt most could get within 2,000 miles of it now). If she is, though, there’ll be three years of things to drag up between now and then and a far lesser recent outrage will trump a far more major older outrage, besides which Bhengazi has way too many moving parts to the story to galvanize the Republican base. They need something far simpler to get worked up over, so even if she’s guilty as charged by the Tea Partyingest of the accusers, it won’t be _this_ scandal that cockblocks her in '16. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/83 "2013-05-09T20:26:55Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > In what sense is this “trolling”? What you’re saying is so dumb and hard to read that they think you’re doing this to be annoying. It’s a compliment in that they think you might be a little less stupid than you appear. I’m agnostic on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/84 "2013-05-09T20:27:01Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > In what sense is this “trolling”? Ok, I’ll give you credit for not trolling but being so ridiculously over the top dumb and barely coherent that it comes out the same way. I’m not sure which I’d rather be accused of: stupidity or trolling. Case in point: you are complaining about the change in forum. Well, guess what? Reasonably intelligent posters _read the rules_. If you had done so, you might realize that **ANY** form of political name-calling (whether left or right wing) is going to get the same treatment. Not quit crying and grow a brain. Or at least learn to communicate effectively using the English language. The mockery you heap upon our (it’s not a 2nd language for you, is it?) mother tongue is almost more than I can bear (not really, but hyperbole is often good for the soul). ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/85 "2013-05-09T20:27:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think he’s punishing everybody who is reading this. That’s OK. I’ve been bad. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/86 "2013-05-09T20:28:46Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > In what sense is this “trolling”? > > I come here - open a thread - use the term “Hitlery” rather than Hillary > > (not exactly trying to HIDE my sentiments) > > sort of saying up front from the get-gothat I am not a libbie demmie Leftwing lover anymore - but “trolling” - by what what definition? Needlessly using inflammatory language in order to elicit a response. To clarify, you’re likely a neckbeard who grins whenever you manage to rile someone up. > [@](#): > > I asked a question about the effects of a current event on the 2016 election - > got my thread moved to the BBQ Pit not at my request - it was orginally in ELECTIONS - > > How am I a troll? If a Bush thread called him, “The Shrub” in the title, it would have been moved as well. If you aren’t able to engage intelligently, you get moved to the pit. > [@](#): > > or is that you alleged free-thinkers cannot tolerate my viewpoint > and can only respond with ad hominems like “doesnt know the English language” - “is a RW Conspiracist” etc etc You’re not a free thinker. You’re a dupe who is reacting to misinformation because you don’t have the skills to evaluate what you’re hearing. > [@](#): > > “is not smart enough to be here” I base that on the chaotic and rambling tone you’re taking. Intelligent people try to get others to understand what they’re saying. > [@](#): > > she stupes and stoops and stups to conquer - but does not schtup That’s another example of the above. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/87 "2013-05-09T20:35:22Z")
Thank you Sampiro - for perhaps the first direct response to the OP in two pages of shit-flinging. Wolfie - I am not upset, do not love Bush and everything he ever did - but will get upset at disparaging remarks against David Bowie - i regret having to retire two David Bowie T-Shirts a couple years ago. I think Bowie is in trouble in the news somewhere - no - i wont answer yer frickin “points” about Bush - oldest libbie demmie dipshit trick in the book - ATTACK BUSH if anyone claims Obama is fallible - i aint fallin for it “take your protein pills and put your helmet on” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/88 "2013-05-09T20:40:35Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > Thank you Sampiro - for perhaps the first direct response to the OP in two pages of shit-flinging. > > Wolfie - I am not upset, do not love Bush and everything he ever did - but will get upset at disparaging remarks against David Bowie - i regret having to retire two David Bowie T-Shirts a couple years ago. I think Bowie is in trouble in the news somewhere - no - i wont answer yer frickin “points” about Bush - oldest libbie demmie dipshit trick in the book - ATTACK BUSH if anyone claims Obama is fallible - i aint fallin for it It isn’t an attack at Bush. It’s showing that the Republicans didn’t care at all about attacked consulates when it was their dog in the race. Now that Obama has a consulate attacked, they’re trying to pretend like it’s ten times Watergate. That’s simply insane. > [@](#): > > “take your protein pills and put your helmet on” I think we know whose shirt you wear. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/89 "2013-05-09T20:42:56Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > oldest libbie demmie dipshit trick in the book - ATTACK BUSH if anyone claims Obama is fallible - i aint fallin for it What you \*have \*fallen for, but are too stupid to realize, is a different trick - the tried-and-true Republican/Fox/Rove/Luntz one of loudly blaming a Democrat for something they themselves were and are far more guilty of. It helps insulate them against being held accountable for their own bungling. And that’s why they keep telling you about Benghazi (and learn to spell while you’re at it, fool) - because of exactly the sort of thing you’ve now been shown, but didn’t hear on Fox. Does it start to dawn on you yet how totally you’ve been played? I doubt it, but maybe there’s a glimmer of hope somewhere in all that stupe. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/90 "2013-05-09T20:46:00Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > UNREAL – > now we be tawkin! Now you’re cookin’ ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/91 "2013-05-09T20:51:45Z")
Smell what The Rock is cookin’! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/92 "2013-05-09T20:58:00Z")
[QUOTE=Lobohan] Now that Obama has a consulate attacked, they’re trying to pretend like it’s ten times Watergate. That’s simply insane. [/QUOTE] That’s “ten times Watergate and Iran-Contra combined” to be precise. Though since most did not consider Iran-Contra that big of a deal- in fact some described it as downright heroic- the exact values of \*10 (Wg + IC) \*get a bit confusing. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/93 "2013-05-09T20:59:09Z")
The only thing that’s gonna screw up Hillary’s chances in 2016 is her age (she’ll be 69). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/94 "2013-05-09T21:00:11Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That’s “ten times Watergate and Iran-Contra combined” to be precise. > Though since most did not consider Iran-Contra that big of a deal- in fact some described it as downright heroic- the exact values of \*10 (Wg + IC) \*get a bit confusing. “It’s literally the holocaust squared.” — \*Some Republican, in the next few days \* ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/95 "2013-05-09T21:07:07Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I don’t seem to remember Bush II being asked any pointed questions about that thing that happened on 9/11. Well, he was interviewed by the Commission. In private, with no release of the results. And Cheney was by his side… I take exception to your vicious attack on the Bush administrations culpability on 9/11. For one thing, during the 9-11 Commission’s questioning of Bush 43 & Cheney, \*\* neither one of them was _UNDER OATH!_\*\* Unlike that b\*\*\*\* Hillary–who was. Welcome to the Straight Dope **Habakkuk3** , you’re the beacon of truthiness that’s been missing from teh Boards. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/96 "2013-05-09T21:07:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Wow. A 1977 Steve Martin reference. You’re OLD, dude. I make 1960s Flanders and Swann references all the time. Now that’s old! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/97 "2013-05-09T21:11:03Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > That’s OK. I’ve been bad. I’ve been _worse._ Mea culpa. I forced myself to read the entire thread, in penance. I even went ahead and hit “find all posts by Habakkuk3”. :eek:Still, I don’t think I have atoned enough. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/98 "2013-05-09T21:14:10Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > “It’s literally the holocaust squared.” — \*Some Republican, in the next few days > \* “It’s literally nine hundred and eleven times worse then the Holocaust.” – _Some Republican, later that day, then issues an apology a day later how he didn’t mean to offend small business people, then issuing another apology the next day about offending the Jews ‘as small business people’ along with the Holocaust, but then points out that only a quarter million died, ad infinititum…"_ Forget **Lobohan** , it’s GOPtown. ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/99 "2013-05-09T22:24:44Z")
“holocaust squared” holocaust times nine hundred and eleven… (Habakkuk3 jots down in notebook) I am for the Chicago Bulls. I liked the duet David Bowie did with Bing Crosby on LITTLE DRUMMER BOY. If Hillary is TOO OLD to run - why are they even TAWKIN about Joe Biden? (I personally like Biden) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/100 "2013-05-09T22:30:54Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > why are they even TAWKIN about Joe Biden? You gotta watch out for listening to “they”. “They” will have you believing a lone gunman killed Kennedy and that we landed on the moon and 9/11 wasn’t a government plot to sell Coca-Cola. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=6)