# Will "BHENGAZI-GATE" screw up Hitlery's chances in 2016? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888 "2013-05-09T13:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/161 "2013-05-10T17:43:51Z")
I know that time began on 1/20/09 and all and anything before that is a figment of my imagination. But even if you believe the worst of Hannity’s spittle-inflected ravings about the Obama adminstration’s role in Benghazi, you have about the level of incompetence, ass-covering, and general mendacity that Bushco exhibited when they ordered lunch. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/162 "2013-05-10T17:50:24Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (underline added) > > It’s certainly getting easier to follow the actual timeline of events as more information is becoming public. It’s now known that the initial reports were repeatedly altered by Whitehouse appointees. \* > > [Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/) Talking points are not reports. I’m just sayin’. Reports apparently were not in fact altered. What elements were taken from them for discusssion in public forums was. That this sort of editing process exists, is that some sort of huge surprise to some people here? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/163 "2013-05-10T18:09:54Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > How much of the hearing so far has delved into Clinton’s alleged failure to do enough with her Congressionally limited resources, and how much has been about trying to find a scandal to make political hay out of? And shall we expect Congressional hearings into every budgetary decision made by the Secretary of State or into every international event that occurs? And, again, where were these hearings into the prior administration? > > You raise good points, points that I’m not sure anybody contests. But, as I said before, this ain’t that. What is occurring in these hearings isn’t about the functioning of the State Department within budgetary constraints or responses to requests for additional security. It’s about trying to manufacture a scandal. Indeed, that line of attack just simply is not going to fly. “You didn’t have enough security!” "Well, you did cut our budget! “Well…you should have put what remained more effectively!” Even thought they might have a point, that really isn’t going to make for a scandal, and if anything it will cut both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/164 "2013-05-10T18:18:34Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I dunno, I ‘choke the penguin” a couple times a week….😛 Looks like you blew a seal. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/165 "2013-05-10T18:23:20Z")
No, that’s just ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/166 "2013-05-10T19:47:33Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Looks like you blew a seal. _" Fix the damn thing And leave my private life out of it Okay pal?"_ ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/167 "2013-05-10T19:49:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Haters gonna hate. > > The point is that this issue won’t change anyone’s mind. The people who won’t vote for Hillary Clinton in 2013 because of some supposed issue over Benghazi had already made up their minds not to vote for her back in 1992. This is the kind of issue that will only convince people who were already convinced. Yeah, but it also helps to promote a generally vague “atmosphere of scandal” surrounding Mrs. Clinton. This was the right-wing playbook in the 90’s: Vince Foster, Travelgate, Whitewater…none of it really stuck, but it kept the Clintons on the defensive and allowed the right-wing noise machine to fill the void (“well, X scandal sounds ridiculous, but Clinton hasn’t fought back, so there must be something he/she wants to hide.”). In other words, I agree the issue itself won’t change minds, but insofar as it helps make Clinton look “dirty”, it could diminish her chances generally. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/168 "2013-05-10T20:10:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _" Fix the damn thing > And leave my private life out of it > Okay pal?"_ Worst…haiku…ever. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/169 "2013-05-10T20:19:20Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Worst…haiku…ever. I will now forever more “hear” you like the Comic-book Guy. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/170 "2013-05-10T20:26:43Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I will now forever more “hear” you like the Comic-book Guy. After your last pit thread I now hear your posts in a shrill, histrionic voice. My posts should be read in Jack Black’s voice. ---
**Author:** ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/171 "2013-05-10T20:28:40Z")
Carney guffaw yer the leader of the free world - and you have CARNEY as a spokesman? rofl ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/172 "2013-05-10T20:32:38Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Worst…haiku…ever. Don’t mind the **Dr** , he’s just having a Wet Dream. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/173 "2013-05-10T20:34:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _" Fix the damn thing > And leave my private life out of it > Okay pal?"_ > [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Worst…haiku…ever. _Insinuation! Flightless waterfowl blowjob Voice actors needed_ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/174 "2013-05-10T20:35:56Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > rofl Says the guy wondering why people don’t take him seriously, even though this is kind of far down the list of reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/175 "2013-05-10T20:52:50Z")
> [@Habakkuk3](#): > > yer the leader of the free world - and you have CARNEY as a spokesman? Exactly the sort of measured, reasoned discourse we’ve come to expect. Bravo. I’m coming around on your affectations. They’re endearing - in the same way grown men crying over a football game can be simultaneously endearing and nauseating at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/176 "2013-05-10T21:00:23Z")
Adding a string of smiley faces to the end of every post has been proven to be an effective method to get people to take you seriously, too. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/177 "2013-05-10T21:07:44Z")
Don’t forget the ‘God bless always’ part. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/178 "2013-05-10T21:34:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > . . . (And typin’ like that ain’ no accent, **Habakkuk3**. It’s an affectation. . . . ) > [@DrDeth](#): > > My gawd a reasoned and intelligent counter-point. . . . > [@Hamlet](#): > > . . . This ain’t that. . . . Lots of us do this. It’s unfair to single out one user and scorn him or scold him. 'T’aint right. One law for the ox and one law for the ass is tyranny. Or bad sportsmanship. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/179 "2013-05-10T22:29:56Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Lots of us do this. It’s unfair to single out one user and scorn him or scold him. 'T’aint right. One law for the ox and one law for the ass is tyranny. Or bad sportsmanship. I occasionally use bold or italics to emphasize a point. I don’t think that prevents me from \*criticizing \ ***someone who** _ **writes like this** _ _ **all the time.** _ ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888/180 "2013-05-10T23:46:03Z")
Who’s this Carney **Habukkuk3** is jabbering about? Art Carney’s dead, Carnie Wilson’s not part of the Obama administration, and Kearney from The Simpsons is not real. Oh, he’s trying to look clever with a play on John Kerry’s name that connects him with a carnival worker. Sorry, bub, but that word is “carny.” Correct spelling can make a joke work, while incorrect spelling just makes you look like an idiot, though I don’t think perfect spelling could help you with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-bhengazi-gate-screw-up-hitlerys-chances-in-2016/657888.md?page=10)