# Will Boris Johnson resign? (Has resigned, June 9, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388 "2022-01-25T23:30:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![filmstar-en](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@filmstar-en](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmstar-en)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/101 "2022-02-27T03:02:32Z")
> **[Why have there been delays to UK Russia sanctions?](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60524666)** > > Many Russians were sanctioned more quickly by the EU and US than the UK. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/102 "2022-02-27T07:46:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Sorry, I’ve obviously missed something. What is the significance of something in May? Local government elections across wide swaths of the country. First major electoral test since the General Election. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/103 "2022-02-27T14:18:19Z")
What he said. ^^^ Backgrounder: **[https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-faces-worst-london-local-election-results-for-50-years-lord-hawyard-b974809.html](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-faces-worst-london-local-election-results-for-50-years-lord-hawyard-b974809.html)** Basically, the idea here is that Boris may be controversial, generating a lot of media noise, but in the past he has ultimately been a net positive, attracting energy and support for the Conservatives despite his own dodgy approval status. The open question is whether that still holds true, or if the balance has tipped and he’s now a drag on the party. If he’s still a net positive, they will hold their noses and keep him. If not, they’ll dump him. And the conventional wisdom is that the results in May will go a long way toward answering this question. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/104 "2022-02-27T17:26:10Z")
Thanks for the explanation. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/105 "2022-02-27T19:41:52Z")
London (the Evening Standard is local to London) local government was always likely to be more Labour. The significant battlegrounds will be [elsewhere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_Kingdom_local_elections), in the [“red wall” areas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_wall_(British_politics)), and in strongly Tory areas where the alternative is the LibDems (who are stronger in local than national elections). ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/106 "2022-02-28T19:23:14Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Local government elections across wide swaths of the country. First major electoral test since the General Election. Why don’t local issues determine how people vote in local elections? ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/107 "2022-02-28T19:32:16Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Why don’t local issues determine how people vote in local elections? Most of the voters who are knowledgable about local politics are already politically involved, and thus have already committed themselves to a political party. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/108 "2022-03-01T07:13:57Z")
Local issues may sway some votes and hence results in some places; but successive central governments have loaded so much more central direction of policy on to local authorities (and shifted the balance of funding nearer 80% or so from central government, while restricting local governments’ ability to raise funding locally) - that both anyone who knows anything about it and those who don’t tend to treat local elections as a referendum on the national government. I know enough about some of our local candidates and personalities to vote on their individual qualities. But I don’t expect there to be any surprises changing my usual party preferences. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/109 "2022-03-01T10:09:00Z")
> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#): > > Actually Johnson has been advocating strong sanctions against Russia and its oligarchs. Johnson “advocates” lots of things. He rarely delivers. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/110 "2022-03-02T11:41:18Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Johnson “advocates” lots of things. He rarely delivers. He delivered Brexit. (Let the celebrations resume.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/111 "2022-03-02T12:00:07Z")
Much in the same way the IRA “delivered” bombings. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/112 "2022-03-02T12:09:08Z")
What’s the Brexit death count? And please don’t respond with those tiresome articles that Brexit supporters are more likely to be Covid vaccine reluctant. I’m asking how many deaths can actually be blamed on Brexit. Then compare it to the number of IRA deaths, and we’ll see if you have a point. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/113 "2022-03-02T12:15:16Z")
Yes, deaths. Clearly that is the only way that comparison could possibly be read. But I bet Brexit has cost the country far more and done far more economic damage than the IRA has. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/114 "2022-03-02T13:10:39Z")
The only death that I’m aware of that could be blamed on Brexit, or rather to Northern Ireland’s reaction to Brexit, was Lyra McKee. And even that blame is weak. 2019 unionist protests over Brexit led to unionist/republican riots. There’s a claim for Brexit as a cause of those riots, but it’s not like previously the two sides had lacked motivation for violence. McKee was apparently killed by a member of the New IRA. Which, grouping Republican groups together, were anti-Brexit. > **[Lyra McKee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyra_McKee)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Lyra Catherine McKee (/ˈlɪərə məˈkiː/ 31 March 1990 – 18 April 2019) was a journalist from Northern Ireland who wrote for several publications about the consequences of the Troubles. She also served as an editor for Mediagazer, a news aggregator website. On 18 April 2019, McKee was fatally shot during rioting in the Creggan area of Derry.\[note 1\] > McKee was born on 31 March 1990 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Her interest in journalism began at f... ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/115 "2022-03-02T15:35:32Z")
> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#): > > He delivered Brexit. Well, not quite. (See: Northern Ireland Protocol). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/116 "2022-09-03T19:27:27Z")
Here we are 6 months later. I thought I heard that Boris Johnson’s term was ending in a few days. Did they ever decide for sure who is going to be prime minister in the next few days? ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/117 "2022-09-03T19:41:19Z")
New PM to be announced tomorrow (5th Sep). Almost certainly Truss. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/118 "2022-09-04T07:14:19Z")
[Removal vans already at work at No. 10](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/moving-vans-downing-street-boris-johnson-new-prime-minister-b1022718.html) (unlike [anyone purporting to be PM](https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/15/boris-johnson-spotted-on-second-holiday-as-energy-bill-crisis-spirals-17182693/)). > **[Tory leadership race: who will be the UK’s next PM?](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/02/uk-tory-leadership-election-race-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-polls-candidates-when-is-the-vote)** > > The election by Conservative members will decide if Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak will replace Boris Johnson as party leader and Britain’s next prime minister ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/119 "2022-09-04T09:12:45Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Removal vans already at work at No. 10 (unlike anyone purporting to be PM). Bravo. He utterly refused to go when he was forced to resign, insisting he would act as a caretaker PM. As we head towards a gargantuan cost of living crisis that is going to devastate households and businesses, he has spent two valuable months doing fuck all except holidays and photo ops. A corrupt lazy egotist who has been given countless opportunities to take early action to address highly predictable problems and consistently refused to act, with predictably terrible consequences. How this obviously and nakedly unsuitable clown was allowed to become MP should be a matter for deep reflection on the part of everybody who assured us he the man for the job, but won’t be because when you’ve fucked up that badly you can’t ever admit it without calling into question the entire system that let you make that fuck up… ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388/120 "2022-09-04T10:07:52Z")
He should never have got on to their approved candidates list in the first place. They knew he was a serial liar and lazy with it; and then there was the murky business with Darius Guppy. But no prizes for wondering why they took no notice - the old pals act won out, as ever. As for the succession… > **[Leading a merry dance: the Tory leadership contest – Stephen Collins cartoon](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/ng-interactive/2022/sep/03/leading-a-merry-dance-the-tory-leadership-contest-stephen-collins-cartoon)** > > Chosen ones … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-boris-johnson-resign-has-resigned-june-9-2023/958388.md?page=7)