# Will DC allow A TV series like the Flash to have major DC heros that will be in the movies? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 3, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100 "2015-07-03T01:50:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/1 "2015-07-03T01:50:57Z")
Just curious. Could Superman, Batman or Wonder Women etc. show in in the current "[The Flash" TV series](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj0l7iGKh8g) without the marketing universe exploding or will it be limited to 2nd or 3rd tier characters that will not be in any future movies? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/2 "2015-07-03T02:04:23Z")
Why wouldn’t it happen? Young Bruce Wayne has his own TV show, so DC obviously aren’t reserving him for movies. And there was a mention of Waynetech’s future merger with Queen consolidated. (Visible in the future newspaper, I think) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/3 "2015-07-03T02:14:41Z")
I don’t think it’s marketing confusion that will keep Batman and Superman out of the TV series. They’ve got kid Batman running around on _Gotham_ at the same time they’re putting _Batman v. Superman_ into theaters. I think audiences can handle the idea that these characters exist in different universes when they’re on different media. But I’m pretty sure Batman’s right out. Arrow is basically Batman with a compound bow. (In fairness, that’s pretty much what Green Arrow’s always been.) He’s even inheriting Batman’s rogues gallery. Adding a grimdark Batman to the setting is going to be redundant - although it could be interesting if they rejected the modern Frank Miller/Christopher Nolan Batman in favor of a more bronze-age swashbuckling read on the character. Batman used to be able to crack a smile. They could bring that back. Superman’s a possibility, depending on where the TV shows go, and how successful they are. I wouldn’t be surprised that they try to do a new Superman TV show in the next couple years, especially if they feel a need to rejuvenate a fading _Arrow_ or _The Flash_. Likewise with Wonder Woman and… well, probably not Aquaman, because Aquaman. I also wonder about the reverse. Is there going to be a Flash in a Justice League movie some day? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/4 "2015-07-03T02:24:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I also wonder about the reverse. Is there going to be a Flash in a Justice League movie some day? That’s already in the works for 2018; Ezra Miller as Barry Allen in a solo film, with _Justice League Part Two_ the following year. There’s already a wiki page for [DC Comics’ shared universe films](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics%27_shared_universe_films), though of course the project schedule is subject to massive revision if it turns into a financial disaster. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/5 "2015-07-03T02:56:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > But I’m pretty sure Batman’s right out. Arrow is basically Batman with a compound bow. (In fairness, that’s pretty much what Green Arrow’s always been.) I actually preferred GA before he became Batman-lite. Would have liked if it GA stayed more like he was after Dark Knight proved so popular. > [@](#): > > Superman’s a possibility, depending on where the TV shows go, and how successful they are. I wouldn’t be surprised that they try to do a new Superman TV show in the next couple years, especially if they feel a need to rejuvenate a fading _Arrow_ or _The Flash_. Likewise with Wonder Woman and… well, probably not Aquaman, because Aquaman. I think that until the Superman movies truly fizzle, we won’t see ‘Superman’. And after far too many years of Smallville, it may be awhile before we get Clark Kent in any live action incarnation. Gotham is to Batman as Smallville was to Superman, only less so. That’s Jim Gordon’s story, not Bruce Wayne’s. Best part, though, is that any upcoming movies may not have to spend too much time on establishing the villains…or so I would hope. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/6 "2015-07-03T03:49:26Z")
I propose legislation that no superhero movie can spend more than five minutes on origins. If you can’t explain an origin in five minutes or less, get the fuck out of show business. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/7 "2015-07-03T04:43:21Z")
Having already seen the Supergirl pilot, Superman is seen in silhouette once and mentioned a bunch as ‘your cousin’ and ‘He.’ So, if he ever shows up on TV, it’s likely going to be there. Maybe the show lasts enough that being coy about it gets tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/8 "2015-07-03T07:49:56Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I actually preferred GA before he became Batman-lite. Would have liked if it GA stayed more like he was after Dark Knight proved so popular. As Miller said, GA was Batman-lite from the beginning. He was _created_ as a millionaire with a young ward and a secret life as a masked crimefighter who used his skills and improbable gadgets to battle supervillains. He had and Arrowcar, and an Arrowplane, and an Arrowcave to keep them in. And as Batman said, “Good lord man, didn’t you ever have an original idea back then?” ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/9 "2015-07-03T08:10:11Z")
Batman and Superman each are worth more in terms of films and licensing to WB than everything else in the DC Comics catalogue combined. I can see some wisdom in not diluting the brand too much. Marvel, by contrast, is pushing the “shared universe” concept pretty heavily in its movies, but not in its TV shows (yet). Shared universe was always more of a Marvel thing, and nobody wants another [Challenge/Roast of the Superheroes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131675/?ref_=tt_ov_inf) mess. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-dc-allow-a-tv-series-like-the-flash-to-have-major-dc-heros-that-will-be-in-the-movies/724100/10 "2015-07-03T12:18:59Z")
Batman and GA were alike, but then Batman went dark while GA remained the same for a few years. Then he too became a ‘ninja’. Good stories, but I preferred that in-between period. I thought it was a good counter to Batman.