# Will economic recession halt the growth of Prosperity theology? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582 "2008-10-05T19:07:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/1 "2008-10-05T19:07:30Z")
I just read an [interesting article](http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1847053,00.html) in Time about how the mortgage bubble served as a boon for Prosperity pastors. Will an economic downturn affect this particular (in my opinion despicable) branch of Christianity? Have there been previous sects of Christianity or other religions that have tied themselves so firmly to the economy? Is Prosperity a new gospel or a return of something old? ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/2 "2008-10-05T19:49:06Z")
God, I hope so! A charismatic “Christian stoic” (Thanks, Morton Kondracke!) here. (Morton’s definition of C’tian Stoicism: Trust God & deal with whatever cards life deals you.) ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/3 "2008-10-05T19:51:16Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > God, I hope so! > > A charismatic “Christian stoic” (Thanks, Morton Kondracke!) here. > > (Morton’s definition of C’tian Stoicism: Trust God & deal with whatever cards life deals you.) Btw, a lot of “Prosperity Gospelism” is a fundamentalized version of late 1800’s “New Thought/Mind Science”, maybe even with some good ol’ Gnosticism (“We are parts of God & can create our own reality”) thrown in. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/4 "2008-10-05T22:12:13Z")
In 1925, adman Bruce Barton penned [_The Man Nobody Knows_](http://jaar.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/XLVI/2/151), which framed Jesus as a sort of super-salesman. It was a best seller. Does anybody know whether it was popular during the Great Depression? The fact that I’ve heard of the guy indicates that this meme has legs. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/5 "2008-10-05T22:37:00Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > In 1925, adman Bruce Barton penned [_The Man Nobody Knows_](http://jaar.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/XLVI/2/151), which framed Jesus as a sort of super-salesman. It was a best seller. > > Does anybody know whether it was popular during the Great Depression? The fact that I’ve heard of the guy indicates that this meme has legs. That’s only tangentially related to Prosperity theology. Barton’s book, along with Norman Vincent Peale’s The Power of Positive Thinking inspired a mainstream Protestant idealism which is now best represented by Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral. Prosperity Theology is a Charismatic variation that actually teaches that believing & giving releases a Divine energy that results in material blessings. Oral Roberts really got the ball rolling on that. I like Peale & the Schullers, tho I think they are kinda soft on some core issues. Some Prosperity preachers may mean well, but I still avoid them. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/6 "2008-10-05T23:02:05Z")
I think it will advance the goals of prosperity theology, as Christianity is remarkably good at blaming the adherent for a lack of faith. So as people apply their faith and the economy rebounds they’ll be shown that it works. Obviously it will lose some adherents to cynicism, but it will gain others who hope that by faith they can turn their luck around. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-economic-recession-halt-the-growth-of-prosperity-theology/466582/7 "2008-10-06T00:09:54Z")
Thanks **FriarTed**. Do you know whether fusions of Jesus and Mammon do well in hard times? My guess is, “Sure, why not? It’s a big world after all”, but frankly I don’t know.