# Will 'giving up' turn trumps base against him

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992 "2021-01-08T02:27:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/1 "2021-01-08T02:27:53Z")

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despite the fact that trump now says he accepts the election results, I’m not going to hold my breath.

But assume he does accept bidens win. would that be what turns his base against him? I’ve already heard some of trumps followers are turning on him for accepting Bidens win.

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/2 "2021-01-08T02:28:27Z")

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No…

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/3 "2021-01-08T02:34:35Z")

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After he is finally dragged out of Washington I believe most of his base will turn on Trump and/or turn to someone else. Donald Trump is now a loser. The sucker money will dry up. It is just a question of how deep in debt he is and how much corruption can be proven.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/4 "2021-01-08T02:35:29Z")

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I’ll have to go with the protests now at state capitols prove that no, nope, no how, no way, not on your life will those idiots turn on him.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/5 "2021-01-08T02:38:59Z")

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Trump already did.

> **[Trump finally admits defeat: 'A new administration will be inaugurated on...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-finally-admits-defeat-a-new-administration-will-be-inaugurated-on-january-20-011501284.html)**
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> Two months after the 2020 presidential election, less than a day after Congress certified the Electoral College results, and facing increasing pressure to resign, Donald Trump finally admitted on Thursday that he had lost and would not serve a second...

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/6 "2021-01-08T02:53:12Z")

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At least some are:

> <https://twitter.com/mollyhc/status/1347345590070484993?s=20>

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/7 "2021-01-08T02:58:41Z")

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I’m guessing there is a carrot and stick behind it, and that it has been made clear, if he is a good little boy for two weeks , they won’t humiliate him by having him removed from office.

3-1 he won’t make it.

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/8 "2021-01-08T03:05:38Z")

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The answer is based on what happens next. Will Donald gear up to run again in 2024 or just fade into the background counting the money he’s fleeced from the rubes? If he immediately starts running to win back the job that was stolen from him I believe his base will cheer him on an attend his next rally. If he walks away the loser that he his, which I think is unlikely, his base will start looking for the next Trump… and that certainly won’t be Pence. That bridge has now been burned beyond recognition. Perhaps Don Jr. will be ready for prime time by then…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/9 "2021-01-08T03:09:00Z")

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I watched Trump’s address. He did not admit defeat or say he lost or that Biden won or that the election results were accurate. He said Congress has certified the results and a new administration will take office.

So it looks like he’s going to keep saying he actually won and Biden cheated. But he’s also going to leave. That makes it look like he’s doing so voluntarily rather than the reality that he’s leaving because he lost.

He concluded by saying _“To all of my wonderful supporters, I know you are disappointed but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning.”_ Which sounds to me like an announcement of a 2024 run.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/10 "2021-01-08T03:33:18Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> At least some are:

Yeah, it seems at least a few of these dimbulbs are coming to the realization that they got suckered into: a) being summoned to DC on their own dime, b) being whipped into a frenzy by Trump, who claimed he was going to lead their glorious march to the Capitol, but instead c) bunkered himself in the White House while d) letting his followers do the dirty work he clearly demanded, only to e) cut them loose the second he figured out that doing so might, at least temporarily, save him from getting the chop. Er, figuratively.

It’s almost Shakespearean.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/11 "2021-01-08T03:43:12Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> despite the fact that trump now says he accepts the election results

Which is exactly what the first half of the first sentence of the OP referred to. Which was the basis of his question.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/12 "2021-01-08T03:43:27Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> _“To all of my wonderful supporters, I know you are disappointed but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning.”_

To Perdition?

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/13 "2021-01-08T03:43:44Z")

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I prefer Greek Tragedy myself.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/14 "2021-01-08T03:48:23Z")

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If only someone had warned them.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/15 "2021-01-08T03:50:12Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> _To all of my wonderful supporters, I know you are disappointed but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning.”_

“Please form an orderly line to collect your handbasket.”

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/16 "2021-01-08T04:18:43Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> I’m guessing there is a carrot and stick behind it, and that it has been made clear, if he is a good little boy for two weeks , they won’t humiliate him by having him removed from office.
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> 3-1 he won’t make it.

As soon as he realizes AG Merrick Garland will have free range to investigate him inside and out I expect a full on meltdown.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/17 "2021-01-08T04:34:39Z")

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Possibly, But I am guessing he is such a clumsy, dirty, clueless shit that half a dozen people(e.g. Pence) have a whole closet of smoking guns. That they would prefer never get revealed for their own reps, but are more than willing to burn him to save their own asses, in court, if he forces it to come to that.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/18 "2021-01-08T05:08:45Z")

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Haven’t you ever seen a crazy evangelical preacher?  
Trump’s base are True Believers. They will follow him blindly–anywhere, forever.  
Think about how many evangelical leaders have been totally disgraced by scandals. They get caught in flagrant sexual and financial scandals that would, for a normal person, end their careers.  
But their followers don’t care.  
They scream “Halleluyah” and send their money.

Trump has his own church now, and will take it on a tour around the country, holding revival meetings in a hundred cities .  
Remember the crowds screaming “build that wall!!”,. “lock her up!”? Trump will come up with a new slogan, and his base will chant it in unison.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/19 "2021-01-08T05:19:09Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I watched Trump’s address. He did not admit defeat or say he lost or that Biden won or that the election results were accurate. He said Congress has certified the results and a new administration will take office.

Yeah, he didnt 'give up" or concede.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-giving-up-turn-trumps-base-against-him/929992/20 "2021-01-08T15:12:08Z")

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apparently some of his cult followers are starting to say his concession speech was a deep fake video.

> **[Donald Trump fans cry betrayal as he rebukes Capitol violence](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/trump-incites-anger-among-acolytes-let-down-by-lack-of-support)**
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> On Parler and 4chan Trumpists write of feeling ‘like puking’ as president says those who ‘broke law will pay’

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