Too young to vote Nixon era. Any thinking person has known that Trump is an asshole, criminal and fraud. And yes, I did not vote for him.
So, you still think that having more babies will fix climate change?
No, it’s not. Aquaman is an environmentalist. Aquaman is a cool guy.
However, the correct response to this misuse of an Aquaman drawing, is for Aquaman to show up and* throw a polar bear* at the insipid Mr Lee. Or, for the sake of not starting an incident involving the Justice League, for someone else to destroy Mr Lee’s career in such a way as to make him a warning to others.
Aquaman is not the problem. Dismissing an existential crisis with a laughed speech of nonsense is the problem.
You think global warming represents “an existential crisis”? To what? The USA? The human race? The planet Earth?
Yes, all of the above. Well, the biosphere of the planet, anyway.
Have you really not learned this yet? Look up “clathrate gun.”
Which IPCC report can I read about it in?
Well foolsguinea, what you point out is not likely, but Hurricaneditka is also wrong because once one thinks about the most likely things to happen, the existential crisis comes by just realizing that war is more likely. Just by thinking a bit about the most likely results of going over the 2 degrees Celsius limit that the IPCC is trying all to not pass. But, so far humans seem to be running towards the worse case scenarios.
SciShow In which Hank details the five scariest things that will likely happen because of climate change.BTW, I’m aware that his number 5 is not as likely as the other scary things like warming affecting growing regions or ocean rise and ocean acidification, but it can become possible much later if we do not control our emissions soon.
Look not meaning to sound like a jerk here but if you’re this far behind have you considered reading the most recent IPCC report?
I might agree about Nixon, but not GWB.
Remember the Kyoto treaty?
No?
You can thank GWB for that. He was no friend of the environment as he killed the Kyoto treaty.
The guy that was actually elected back in 2000 should have been president, Al Gore was already on board on the need to do something about climate change, 20 years ago. Maybe we wouldn’t be in such dire straights today. But hey, that’s just speculation.
Does it discuss the clathrate gun?
Not sure about that, but I know it doesn’t suggest having more babies to solve the climate change crisis. Having more babies was listed under the heading of “most idiotic suggestions to solve climate change crisis.”
:rolleyes:
Doubtful, but it may get you up to speed on why people who actually are up to date on the science are treating it like an existential threat. Because it is.
Why do you doubt that the clathrate gun is not discussed in the latest IPCC report?
Tell you what - if you want to actually have a discussion, let me know. 
I’d love to have a discussion. Right now I’m interested in the “clathrate gun”. foolsguinea suggested it represented “an existential crisis” to the human race. That sounds interesting. GIGObuster indicated it “is not likely”. Where does your opinion on the matter fall? Is the clathrate gun going to kill us all?
Uh, as mentioned already, the other poster was wrong, deal with the items that are mentioned, or show all that you are like many contrarians out there that just want to concentrate on fringe opinions so as to make it look as if all that look at the science follow that fringe; the IPCC report mentions droughts, ocean rise, ocean acidification that will very likely hurt us a lot, no clathrate gun needed.
As to point out how conservative the IPCC is, one thing they do not talk much about one very likely outcome: climate-driven refugees. But that is because, the IPCC deals with the physical evidence and likely physical outcomes, not much about the sociological ones, for that one then has to look at what experts on that tell us when they look at what the IPCC is estimating:
And what Trump is doing has been, as far as I can see, approved by the likes of senator Lee.
When you say that foolsguinea was wrong, do you mean just about the “clathrate gun” or about the whole “existential crisis” thing?
I think it unlikely that “droughts, ocean rise, ocean acidification” represent an existential crisis for the human race. I think the sort of stupid bullshit fear-mongering that foolsguinea’s post is a fine representation of do not serve your side of the discussion well. You do seem more level-headed though, so I’d be delighted to hear your opinion about your perception of the scale of the problems you listed above (or the climate-driven refugee issue). For example, I recently saw this clip which said in part:
First off, is he wrong? Secondly, do you expect this trend to reverse itself in the next 80 years or so? Are weather-related deaths expected to soar?
Read it again please. As mentioned one does not need that gun for us to continue to play Russian roulette.
Lomborg is always wrong. You fell hook line and sinker for a well known denier with an interest on minimizing the dangers.
Again, if you put some thought to it, it is clear that what Lomborg and other deniers out there are going for is misleading in the extreme, they are willing to ignore deaths caused by displacement and civil unrest that are happening now in part due to climate change already observed, so what Lomborg and others do is misleading.
I starting to suspect the planet agrees with this sentiment.
Of course I supported Gore in 2000, but I hoped GWB wouldn’t be too bad. He had promised to counter climate change.
Shortly after his inauguration, he announced that his science advisors had just informed him that CO2 was the natural product of all carbon fuel usage and that his CO2 promise was therefore off the table! :eek:
I was rather astounded to learn that something every 8th-grader knows was invisible to GWB — a petroleum industry man, no less — until he had the Federal governments scientists at his beck and call.
The Bush Administration just went downhill from there, obviously.
I don’t think there’s any “solving” of climate change – just mitigation or adaptation. In the long run, the Earth will be fine, and so will life, broadly speaking. In the short term (geologically speaking), climate change could result (and probably has already started to result) in severe upheaval for humanity, and mass extinctions for other species. Senator Mike Lee’s response strikes me as an entirely unserious one for a serious issue that could harm millions of Americans.