# Will I give Donald Trump a chance? Pit version! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532 "2017-01-19T10:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/21 "2017-01-19T17:02:06Z")
What a silly notion. Either Trump will do the job or he won’t. Trump has made it perfectly clear he doesn’t give a shit about my opinion. All I am is another pussy he can grab. ---
**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/22 "2017-01-19T17:04:08Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > A chance to re-negotiate trade deals and restructure taxes, for the sole purpose of enhancing his bottom line? A chance to nominate Supreme Court judges who will set this country back for decades? The SCOTUS nominations are really worrisome. A lot of things can be changed, but those will outlive Trump for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/23 "2017-01-19T17:20:16Z")
Anything he says or does I would automatically assume is for his own benefit and would harm the most vulnerable people in society. I won’t give him any chances or the benefit of the doubt ever. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/24 "2017-01-19T17:21:17Z")
> [@Hung\_Mung](#): > > The SCOTUS nominations are really worrisome. A lot of things can be changed, but those will outlive Trump for decades. I hope RBG has updated her directives to keep her alive on machines indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/25 "2017-01-19T17:30:01Z")
If a crack-head asks me for $100 so he can invest in retirement funds through his broker, I am not going to give him a chance, because I know he’s a sad, pathetic figure who is simply lying to me to get a fix. Same thing with Trump. He’s out of chances. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/26 "2017-01-19T17:31:32Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > The next candidate to campaign on actively and aggressively prosecuting any fraud that occurred under the Trump administration will get my vote. Be careful what you wish for. That is exactly how Sarah Palin got into the Governor’s office in Alaska, by campaigning against corruption. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/27 "2017-01-19T17:35:58Z")
I’ve always wanted to travel and see St Petersburg and the statue Motherland in Volgograd. So I’m going to give Trump a chance to making travel to Russia much easier. If any president could do it, it’s gotta be him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/28 "2017-01-19T17:55:23Z")
I’ll give him a chance like I’d give a chance to an extra touchy uncle in watching my child unsupervised. Perhaps it’s feasible that there’s some way for him to prove good intentions and that he wouldn’t cause harm, but the ball is in his court – he’d have to do something extraordinary for me to no longer be suspicious and concerned. And if it happens anyway – this uncle is watching my child, no matter what I do, then I’m staying home, watching him like a hawk, with a baseball bat in my hand, that I won’t hesitate to put his lights out if he steps wrong. I suppose in political terms that means that the ball is in Trump’s court; he would have to do something absolutely extraordinary for me to consider that he’s taking an action that’s meant for the good of the country and not for his own enrichment or aggrandizement (or that of his allies). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/29 "2017-01-19T18:03:20Z")
I’d like to give the Trump a chance And tell him jokes and stuff Then pull his pants down to his shoes And chase him through the rough I’d tie him up with bonds and straps And check his pants for change Then leave him out at Moose Grin Hall With our cousin who’s deranged Stolen and modified from Michael O’Donahue ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/30 "2017-01-19T18:05:41Z")
> **[Trump team prepares dramatic cuts](https://thehill.com/policy/finance/314991-trump-team-prepares-dramatic-cuts/)** > > Donald Trump is ready to take an ax to government spending.  I don’t agree with this. Give him a chance? Nah. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/31 "2017-01-19T18:51:55Z")
I won’t give chance to anyone who thinks nuclear proliferation is a good idea. Someone mentioned upthread about privatization of federal prisons. Is that supposed to be a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/32 "2017-01-19T18:56:12Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I won’t give chance to anyone who thinks nuclear proliferation is a good idea. > > Someone mentioned upthread about privatization of federal prisons. Is that supposed to be a good idea? It is for those who own the newly private prisons. Though the gold lettering might set them back a bit at the start. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/33 "2017-01-19T19:53:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll give him a chance like I’d give a chance to an extra touchy uncle in watching my child unsupervised. Perhaps it’s feasible that there’s some way for him to prove good intentions and that he wouldn’t cause harm, but the ball is in his court – he’d have to do something extraordinary for me to no longer be suspicious and concerned. And if it happens anyway – this uncle is watching my child, no matter what I do, then I’m staying home, watching him like a hawk, with a baseball bat in my hand, that I won’t hesitate to put his lights out if he steps wrong. > > I suppose in political terms that means that the ball is in Trump’s court; he would have to do something absolutely extraordinary for me to consider that he’s taking an action that’s meant for the good of the country and not for his own enrichment or aggrandizement (or that of his allies). Excellent analogy, and well expressed. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/34 "2017-01-19T20:02:23Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > “So what”, hopefully, is that the left gets its shit together over the new couple of years and figures out how to win elections. One piece of it that’s not going to work is saying to Trump, “I don’t think that’s a good idea, but you’re president now, so we’ll go along with it out of respect for the office.” Politically speaking, I’m not sure that’s true. If Dems make a public show of going along with Trump in the manner you described–“We don’t like your idea, but we’ll give it a chance out of respect and open-mindedness”–and everything goes to shit, who gets more pummeled electorally? Dems get to take the high ground and say, “We genuinely tried it your way, it was a disaster, now it’s our turn.” Whereas if Dems resist and obstruct Trump at every turn, either everything goes well and Trump takes the credit (for succeeding despite obstruction) or everything goes to shit and Dems get blamed for not letting Trump get anything done. Now, obstructing Trump may well be best for the _country_. But I’m not sure it’s best for the Democratic party winning elections. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/35 "2017-01-19T20:19:12Z")
A little off topic, but interesting: [How ‘Doonesbury’ predicted Donald Trump’s presidential run 29 years ago](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2016/06/23/how-doonesbury-predicted-donald-trumps-presidential-run-29-years-ago/?utm_term=.d537999401d6) > [@](#): > > IT’S EASY to forget that many of the headlines surrounding Donald Trump’s current campaign were strikingly foreshadowed. But a stroll down the past three decades of “Doonesbury” can read like a road map to the billionaire’s 2016 candidacy. > > A Trump run for president? Check. “Doonesbury” first had that covered nearly 30 years ago. > > Campaign references to Trump as sexual being? Double-check. The comic strip was dishing that satire back in the last millennium. > > Trump University shenanigans? You betcha. Cartoonist Garry Trudeau was on the case more than a decade ago. > > And Trudeau’s new book, “Yuge! 30 Years of Doonesbury on Trump” (Andrews McMeel), which arrives in early July, shows the degree to which The Donald himself has been telling us for decades what was on his long horizon. The writing was on the wall, or at least in the comics section. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/36 "2017-01-19T20:24:18Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > “Give him a chance” seems to be nothing more than “Shut up, Trump critic”. > > I gave him a chance to earn my vote, and he failed to do so. That’s all the chance he, or any other candidate, gets. But, but…he won the election by negative three million votes. Surely that counts for something? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/37 "2017-01-19T20:28:11Z")
My suggestion that all flags fly at half-staff throughout CA on 1/20/2017 was rejected. or ignored, by my state. And they say they listen to us. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/38 "2017-01-19T21:16:58Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I shudder to think how much Trump might steal off the back of a $1T infrastructure bill. I suspect we’d get a staggeringly poor return on investment for our money, infrastructure-wise. > > The next candidate to campaign on actively and aggressively prosecuting any fraud that occurred under the Trump administration will get my vote. What if it’s Trump? You know, like in _O Brother, Where Art Thou?_, when Pappy’s son suggests that they run on the reform platform, even though they’re the incumbent. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/39 "2017-01-19T21:27:57Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Could be worse. Could be raining! 🙂 Give him a chance? Seeing as he will be the most powerful person on the planet tomorrow, what choice do I have? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532/40 "2017-01-19T21:47:41Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Could be raining! 🙂 > > Give him a chance? Seeing as he will be the most powerful person on the planet tomorrow, what choice do I have? I think “Give him a chance” in this case means “Shut the fuck up and get out of the way”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-i-give-donald-trump-a-chance-pit-version/777532.md?page=3)