# Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 2, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504 "2009-06-02T20:45:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/121 "2009-06-16T18:45:20Z")

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Well, I don’t have a dog in this fight anymore, but Elvis is squirming like a fish on the line or a worm on a hook, and the bullshit is getting deeper than a room full of long tailed cats chasing a rat pack…

[QUOTE=Malthus]  
Please point out where I have accused you of arguing in bad faith.  
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You didn’t, but allow me…he is arguing in bad faith. This is pretty standard operating procedure for friend Elvis, not simply on this subject but really on any subject as far as I can tell. He has brought nothing to this thread except his silly assertions and nitpicking at what others wrote…again, this is, seemingly, his standard modus operandi. That he has gotten you to digress into this line of discussion is really all the reward friend Elvis needs or wants.  
-XT

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/122 "2009-06-16T19:33:04Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Well, I don’t have a dog in this fight anymore, but Elvis is squirming like a fish on the line or a worm on a hook, and the bullshit is getting deeper than a room full of long tailed cats chasing a rat pack…
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> You didn’t, but allow me…he is arguing in bad faith. This is pretty standard operating procedure for friend Elvis, not simply on this subject but really on any subject as far as I can tell. He has brought nothing to this thread except his silly assertions and nitpicking at what others wrote…again, this is, seemingly, his standard modus operandi. That he has gotten you to digress into this line of discussion is really all the reward friend Elvis needs or wants.  
> -XT

Ah, I got it. In spite of posting here for years I’m still not familiar with all the “personalities”.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/123 "2009-06-16T22:37:18Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Perhaps I could grab the bull by the horns. But given how you are crying wolf over the issue … I think you are like the dog in the manger on the subject of metaphores.

If you’re willing to discuss the actual issue at hand responsibly, please do so. You’re not helping with this silliness, though.

Now, can you or can you not adopt a view that sees both peoples as humans instead of animals? :dubious:

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> If you assume a willingness to learn from recent history is an “excuse”.

Depends on just what you “learn”, doesn’t it? Persistence and patience and hard work don’t seem to be among those things, sadly.

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> The “process” has been “started” for years.

It stumbled when the Israelis made the “Butcher of Beirut” their PM. It’s been at a dead stop ever since Arafat’s balk at Camp David. The Israelis’ decision to put Netanyahu back in power has now put it in high-speed reverse.

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> How exactly did you come to the conclusion that I believe Israeli goodwill isn’t necessary for peace?

By your harping solely on the Palestinians’ need to show it. One just might draw the inevitable inference from that, mightn’t one?

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> Please point out where I have accused you of arguing in bad faith.

The replay was to your comment about my “bile”. As I said, please scroll up.  
**xtisme** , if you have something informative or even accurate to say, please begin to do so.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/124 "2009-06-16T23:38:23Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
xtisme, if you have something informative or even accurate to say, please begin to do so.  
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Well, I’d answer with ‘you first’, but I’m thinking that there would be no sense in asking for the impossible, especially on this particular subject.

-XT

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