# Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 2, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504 "2009-06-02T20:45:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/117 "2009-06-16T16:15:05Z")

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> It is a commonly used metaphore descriptive of the _situation_, not of the “Israeli POV”.

Yet you’ve only provided a metaphor for one side, unless you think the Palestinians think of \*themselves \*as “wolves”. Is that the case?

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> Sadat famously “went to Jerusalem” (and was assassinated for his trouble). If there was a prominent Sadat-like figure on the Palestinian side, I have yet to hear of it.

Yet again from you, it’s always all the other guys’ responsibility. Do you not think that one side’s actions affect the other’s in most situations, that a change of attitude on one side can promote a responding change on the other?

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> I do not think it is _impossible_ to have peace or a solution - far from it; I merely think it is impossible to achieve a solution without a genuine willingness on the part of a credible Palestinian leadership - which is not in evidence.

Apparently not. It’s all the other guys’ responsibility, once again.

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> Wishing it were otherwise will not make it so.

Wishing you had a reasoned response will not make it so.

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> I could reply likewise.

Nyah, nyah. :rolleyes:

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> I take it you are accusing me of arguing in bad faith.

I accuse you of nothing that you are not demonstrating for yourself.

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