# Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 2, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504 "2009-06-02T20:45:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/119 "2009-06-16T16:48:36Z")

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> Give me a metaphore that is equally apropos for the situation and casts Israelis in the “animal role” and I’d happily adopt it.

How about a metaphor that casts \*both \*peoples is the \*human \*role? Could you adopt one of those instead?

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> I think it most unlikely in this situation for the simple reason that it was tried before and has failed in practice - in Gaza.

Again with the excuses.

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> It is you who are demanding unilateral actions - from the Israelis.

If neither party starts the process, the process will not get started. Nor, since this thread is nominally about the settlements, do they get to be dismissed as not having been “unilateral action by the Israelis”. The fact that reversing that action would also have to be unilateral does \*not \*constitute a reason not to do it. To claim it, as you seem to do, is not acceptance of responsibility for one’s own actions, much less one’s relations with one’s neighbor. The same can be said about walls and bulldozers too, by the way.

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> I do not think “it is all the other guy’s responsibility” at all - clearly Israeli goodwill will be necessary

You have said nothing whatever to support that position, and quite a bit seemingly to the contrary, but it’s a relief to know you hold it anyway, I suppose. Now where are we to find that “good will”?

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> If you want to continue in this vein, Pit me. Otherwise, confine your bile, please.

_Mine_? 😃 Scroll up and reread, if you will.

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