# Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 2, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504 "2009-06-02T20:45:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/120 "2009-06-16T18:16:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> How about a metaphor that casts \*both \*peoples is the \*human \*role? Could you adopt one of those instead?

Perhaps I could grab the bull by the horns. But given how you are crying wolf over the issue … I think you are like the dog in the manger on the subject of metaphores.

😛

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> Again with the excuses.

If you assume a willingness to learn from recent history is an “excuse”.

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> If neither party starts the process, the process will not get started. Nor, since this thread is nominally about the settlements, do they get to be dismissed as not having been “unilateral action by the Israelis”. The fact that reversing that action would also have to be unilateral does \*not \*constitute a reason not to do it. To claim it, as you seem to do, is not acceptance of responsibility for one’s own actions, much less one’s relations with one’s neighbor. The same can be said about walls and bulldozers too, by the way.

The “process” has been “started” for years.

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> You have said nothing whatever to support that position, and quite a bit seemingly to the contrary, but it’s a relief to know you hold it anyway, I suppose. Now where are we to find that “good will”?

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that I believe Israeli goodwill isn’t necessary for peace?

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> _Mine_? 😃 Scroll up and reread, if you will.

Please point out where I have accused you of arguing in bad faith.

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