# Will Lady Gaga be "relevant" a year from now?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 16, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006 "2010-09-16T19:36:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/221 "2010-09-22T04:17:34Z")

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I never said she was ugly, I said her _sex/sexuality_ was ugly and aggressive… she has about as much sexual appeal as a [tampon](http://www.google.com/images?q=bloody+gaga&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=584).

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/222 "2010-09-22T04:22:50Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> > [@devilsknew](#):
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> > Hey, I don’t have a boner for her, so to speak, she has a strong fertility factor as a male, I am maybe fucked up to that degree… the natural physiology of sex and primal attractiveness, natal attraction… a woman that fertile, I just want to stick my dick into like the fountain of youth… I think she’s pretty fucked up, more genuinely than me, however… that’s a whole lotta crazy mama. But I am willing to be convinced that it was all worth it… the greatest feat of mothering ever.
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> I read this assuming you meant GaGa. It got more and more confusing, and wierdly pornliscious. Then I realized that you meant this Octomom person, and it became even more disturbing. Congratulations.

What’s so disturbing about finding Nadya Suleman sexually attractive? As a man, I find available Milf’s attractive. Can’t fault me for liking real women instead of plastic GaGa.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/223 "2010-09-22T05:31:49Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Now that’s where I disagree with you. I actually think it’s her own marketing machine that puts the “ugly” thing out there. I can’t fully articulate it yet, but it’s a strong gut feeling. One thing I find interesting is that it’s almost always her _fans_ who call her ugly or “unconventionally pretty”-- not her haters.

I actually agree with you here. I made the same point about her making the public perceive her as “the outsider” a few pages back. But Gaga fans were quick to call out “nuh uh!”, so we may actually be in the minority.

However, the Rolling Stone covers (both the machine gun one and the bubbles one) have me convinced that “ugly” is not part of the Gaga playbook.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/224 "2010-09-22T05:54:30Z")

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This has very little to do with the actual thread but how hilarious is her weird ass on the maching gun cover? Did they draw it on or what, it’s like person, person, person, person all the way down until aaaaah! Cartoon ass.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/225 "2010-09-22T06:29:35Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> > [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> > I read this assuming you meant GaGa. It got more and more confusing, and wierdly pornliscious. Then I realized that you meant this Octomom person, and it became even more disturbing. Congratulations.
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> What’s so disturbing about finding Nadya Suleman sexually attractive? As a man, I find available Milf’s attractive. Can’t fault me for liking real women instead of plastic GaGa.

LOL, I’m pretty much a Gaga hater, but not only is Gaga more attractive than Octomom, she is certainly more real and less plastic. I find Octomom quite hideous actually, her whole face looks “done” and her lips certainly are.

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**Author:** ![Kurt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kurt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurt)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/226 "2010-09-22T06:54:57Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> but you do not see her being copied in the fashion of the youth culture like Madonna was.

Yes. I can’t go out to see a band without a dozen hipser girls rocking some sort of star-trek/big-shoulders/sequins/retro-futurist-ballgown and ridiculous stylised makeup. We’re living in a post-Gaga world, my friend.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/227 "2010-09-22T08:15:57Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> She’s fairly attractive, but there’s something about every outfit and appearance she has in _Bad Romance_ that’s just intensely hot, except maybe for the CG eyes. I was unimpressed by _Telephone_, but I can’t stop watching the _Bad Romance_ video.

Madonna video meets vodka placement ad. She’s definitely got something but there is probably a medical cure for it. I suspect she suffers from a fear of being 8 inches too short.

If I had to summarize her shtick I’d call it: “vagina without a cause”

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/228 "2010-09-22T09:20:18Z")

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Edit: N/M. Didn’t realize this was a 5-page thread and my point was already covered. Carry on.

This post is now diamonds!

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/229 "2010-09-22T16:22:34Z")

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> [@Kurt](#):
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> > [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> > but you do not see her being copied in the fashion of the youth culture like Madonna was.
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> Yes. I can’t go out to see a band without a dozen hipser girls rocking some sort of star-trek/big-shoulders/sequins/retro-futurist-ballgown and ridiculous stylised makeup. We’re living in a post-Gaga world, my friend.

You guys clearly aren’t that into fashion. I mean, is it Gaga copying the designers (more likely) and their haute couture or is it the designers modeling a bit after Gaga (at this point, maybe a little). Let’s see. . . things that are really in for fall: [big shoulders](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/24/article-1230465-0756DBC3000005DC-154_468x635.jpg) (esp [pointy ones](http://cdn.media.soapnet.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/Gallery_nocrop/031109_ladygaga_viewfashion_445x580.jpg), oddly), tons of [sequins](http://media.onsugar.com/files/ed4/2009/12/52/258/2589280/e8e7496e3d856390_ladygaga.jpg) (especially gunmetal colored), [super high](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tQT0-92ZHK0/S8X4O8Mm0kI/AAAAAAAAAAs/TQIyqWIQEoU/s1600/alexandermcqueen_lady_gaga_bad_romance.jpg) platform shoes with [weird heel](http://www.modern-shoes-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lady-gaga-weird-high-heel-shoes.jpg) shapes, lace [juxtaposed with geometric](http://www.virginmedia.com/images/lady-gaga-lace-290.jpg) (more manly) shapes, etc.

Are the fall trends for ready to wear as exaggerated as Gaga’s? Of course not. The couture lines are, though.

I was at Saks last night and saw all kinds of crazy ass shoes (thanks to YSL), as well as tons of colorful lace in weird cuts, sequins, pointy shoulder pads, and more. The only super trendy thing Gaga really hasn’t jumped on is the military craze, but beyond that, I assure you that kids are in fact wearing Gaga inspired stuff whether they realize it or not. Are they coming out in dresses made out of bubbles? No, it’s far more subtle than that. Just like how Michael Jackson’s death led to a huge resurgence of military jackets that is STILL going on now.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/230 "2010-09-22T16:26:10Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> If I had to summarize her shtick I’d call it: “vagina without a cause”

You _need_ a cause for vagina?

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/231 "2010-09-22T16:55:46Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> > [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> > I read this assuming you meant GaGa. It got more and more confusing, and wierdly pornliscious. Then I realized that you meant this Octomom person, and it became even more disturbing. Congratulations.
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> What’s so disturbing about finding Nadya Suleman sexually attractive? As a man, I find available Milf’s attractive. Can’t fault me for liking real women instead of plastic GaGa.

Oh, come on. Octomom has had her lips done, and she’s crazy for real.

Gaga is obviously playing with images of sexuality. For instance, the images of her that have the most skin are often most jarring and off-putting, while the images with the least skin are among the most sensual.

PS sorry about the multi-multi-post. I had limited access, and the server kept saying it hadn’t posted when it obviously had.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/232 "2010-09-22T17:08:12Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Oh, come on. Octomom has had her lips done, and she’s crazy for real.

And her boobies, too, in 1993. [Look at slide 4 here](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/plastic-231040-surgery-undercutting.html?pic=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter). I find it ironic that she is referred to as a “real woman” while Gaga is “plastic.” Nothing about Suleman looks real to me.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/233 "2010-09-22T17:11:44Z")

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And if I recall correctly from the thread about busts in IMHO, **devilsknew** really, really doesn’t like fake breasts.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/234 "2010-09-22T17:45:44Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> And if I recall correctly from the thread about busts in IMHO, **devilsknew** really, really doesn’t like fake breasts.

But on Octomom, it’s super mega hot. You just don’t understand the animal attraction to a woman who can only reproduce through test tubes-- it just releases some sort of animal instinct in a man.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/235 "2010-09-22T17:49:30Z")

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Plus that massive fame and worldwide recognition must be irresistible. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m starting to feel a little attracted to the Octomom right now.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/236 "2010-09-22T17:53:01Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Plus that massive fame and worldwide recognition must be irresistible. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m starting to feel a little attracted to the Octomom right now.

It’s the power she’s got to captivate us all. Makes me want to dive right in, it does.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/237 "2010-09-22T17:54:48Z")

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“Octomom”. Even the name is alluring.

Say it softly, and it feels like you’re on a beach in Hawaii at dusk.

Say it loudly, and it sounds like something beautiful is caught in your throat.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/238 "2010-09-22T20:28:25Z")

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Must… impregnate… Octomom…

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**Author:** ![Kurt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kurt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurt)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/239 "2010-09-22T21:44:07Z")

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I’m glad I’m not the only one who found Devilsknew’s fawning over “Octomom”'s seemingly irresistible fertility more than a little creepy…

And on that note, I’m in Australia and before this thread had no idea who or what “Octomom” was. Meanwhile Lady Gaga is one of the most talked-about people on the planet, has appeared on the cover of every major music/lifestyle/culture/youth magazine published, and sells out stadium tours around the globe. I can’t believe anyone would argue with any degree of conviction that she’s not, perhaps, the most famous woman in the world right now (let alone that her fame is overshadowed by “Octomom”? I mean, seriously?).

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/240 "2010-09-23T04:22:45Z")

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> [@Kurt](#):
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> I can’t believe anyone would argue with any degree of conviction that she’s not, perhaps, the most famous woman in the world right now (let alone that her fame is overshadowed by “Octomom”? I mean, seriously?).

I would say Hillary Clinton is the most famous woman in the world right now. If we’re talking the entire world, and not just North America, Europe and Australia like people often mean when they say “the world.”

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