# Will Lady Gaga be "relevant" a year from now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 16, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006 "2010-09-16T19:36:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Bayesian\_Empirimancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Bayesian\_Empirimancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayesian_Empirimancer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/261 "2010-09-26T18:25:07Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > I think the best part of Kate Gosslin on that cover is how absolutely naturally beautiful she is. That woman is a paragon of natural beauty-- no surgery, no Photoshopping, just a beautiful woman who has had eight kids and not a single tummy tuck for blur tool > > Well, she had cosmetic surgery, on like the second season, I believe. A doctor donated I believe a stomach reconstruction, and a breast lift, if not a boob job… so she’s not entirely natural either. Perception is reality ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/262 "2010-09-26T19:19:38Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > I think the best part of Kate Gosslin on that cover is how absolutely naturally beautiful she is. That woman is a paragon of natural beauty-- no surgery, no Photoshopping, just a beautiful woman who has had eight kids and not a single tummy tuck for blur tool > > How can you speak to whether that image was photoshopped? > > As far as I’m concerned all magazine covers get spruced up with photoshop. > > I guess I just don’t know why she, a beautiful woman on a magazine cover, is labeled “naturally beautiful” as opposed to other, presumably unnaturally beautiful women on other covers. Because you just got whooshed. Kate Goselin got a fucking tummy tuck _on tv_, she’s the opposite of natural. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/263 "2010-09-26T19:57:14Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > How can you speak to whether that image was photoshopped? > > > > As far as I’m concerned all magazine covers get spruced up with photoshop. > > > > I guess I just don’t know why she, a beautiful woman on a magazine cover, is labeled “naturally beautiful” as opposed to other, presumably unnaturally beautiful women on other covers. > > Because you just got whooshed. Kate Goselin got a fucking tummy tuck _on tv_, she’s the opposite of natural. Kay. I don’t know much about her so I didn’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/264 "2010-09-26T22:51:33Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > How can you speak to whether that image was photoshopped? > > > > As far as I’m concerned all magazine covers get spruced up with photoshop. > > > > I guess I just don’t know why she, a beautiful woman on a magazine cover, is labeled “naturally beautiful” as opposed to other, presumably unnaturally beautiful women on other covers. > > Because you just got whooshed. Kate Goselin got a fucking tummy tuck _on tv_, she’s the opposite of natural. Yeah, unless you’re one of those people who follows Kate Goselin’s every movement, you’re not going to know she had a tummy tuck on TV. Lamest whoosh ever. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/265 "2010-09-26T22:55:32Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > Because you just got whooshed. Kate Goselin got a fucking tummy tuck _on tv_, she’s the opposite of natural. > > Yeah, unless you’re one of those people who follows Kate Goselin’s every movement, you’re not going to know she had a tummy tuck on TV. Lamest whoosh ever. Actually, that’s the only thing I know about her. It was before all the Jon and Kate Plus 8 drama started and it made some mainstream (i.e. not celebrity gossip) news outlets. The doctor donated his services if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/266 "2010-10-08T06:14:52Z")
_Forbes_ lists Lady Gaga as the seventh [most powerful woman in the world](http://www.forbes.com/wealth/power-women/list) (and first in the “Lifestyle” category). 1: Michelle Obama 2: Irene Rosenfeld 3: Oprah Winfrey 4: Angela Merkel 5: Hillary Clinton 6: Indra Nooyi 7: Lady Gaga 8: Gail Kelly 9: Beyonce Knowles 10: Ellen DeGeneres ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/267 "2010-10-08T15:22:25Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > _Forbes_ lists Lady Gaga as the seventh [most powerful woman in the world](http://www.forbes.com/wealth/power-women/list) (and first in the “Lifestyle” category). What number was Octomom? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/268 "2010-10-08T15:28:14Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > _Forbes_ lists Lady Gaga as the seventh [most powerful woman in the world](http://www.forbes.com/wealth/power-women/list) (and first in the “Lifestyle” category). > > 1: Michelle Obama > 2: Irene Rosenfeld > 3: Oprah Winfrey > 4: Angela Merkel > 5: Hillary Clinton > 6: Indra Nooyi > 7: Lady Gaga > 8: Gail Kelly > 9: Beyonce Knowles > 10: Ellen DeGeneres Entertainment Weekly’s [most recent issue](http://idolator.com/5649911/lady-gaga-ew-50-most-powerful-entertainers-list)lists her as the #2 Most Powerful Entertainer…Octomom wasn’t listed 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/269 "2010-10-08T15:57:43Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > > [@spark240](#): > > > > _Forbes_ lists Lady Gaga as the seventh [most powerful woman in the world](http://www.forbes.com/wealth/power-women/list) (and first in the “Lifestyle” category). > > What number was Octomom? I didn’t see her, but I wasn’t sure which category it would be. > [@devilsknew](#): > > Hey, I don’t have a boner for her, so to speak, she has a strong fertility factor as a male, I am maybe fucked up to that degree… the natural physiology of sex and primal attractiveness, natal attraction… a woman that fertile, I just want to stick my dick into like the fountain of youth… I think she’s pretty fucked up, more genuinely than me, however… that’s a whole lotta crazy mama. But I am willing to be convinced that it was all worth it… the greatest feat of mothering ever. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/270 "2010-10-09T02:26:24Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > _Forbes_ lists Lady Gaga as the seventh [most powerful woman in the world](http://www.forbes.com/wealth/power-women/list) (and first in the “Lifestyle” category). > > 1: Michelle Obama > 2: Irene Rosenfeld > 3: Oprah Winfrey > 4: Angela Merkel > 5: Hillary Clinton > 6: Indra Nooyi > 7: Lady Gaga > 8: Gail Kelly > 9: Beyonce Knowles > 10: Ellen DeGeneres I’m really getting tired of the West’s loose use of “in the world.” I can guarantee you that Ellen Degeneres has zero pull in Asia and Africa; there’s most of the people in the world right there. Who the hell is Gail Kelly? Never heard of her. Or Indra Nooyi. Irene Rosenfeld? I thought she was sent to the electric chair in the 1950s for giving the secret of the atomic bomb to the Soviets. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/271 "2010-10-09T02:36:05Z")
It’s a _Forbes_ list. The “power” they are concerned with is at least as much about money as people; the three women you name are executives of enormous multinational corporations. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/272 "2010-10-09T02:49:18Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’m really getting tired of the West’s loose use of “in the world.” I can guarantee you that Ellen Degeneres has zero pull **in Asia and Africa; there’s most of the people in the world right there.** Psh, like those people matter. They don’t even speak English! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Steampunk\_Willie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Steampunk\_Willie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steampunk_Willie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/273 "2010-10-09T07:41:37Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’m really getting tired of the West’s loose use of “in the world.” I can guarantee you that Ellen Degeneres has zero pull in Asia and Africa; there’s most of the people in the world right there. > > Who the hell is Gail Kelly? Never heard of her. Or Indra Nooyi. Irene Rosenfeld? I thought she was sent to the electric chair in the 1950s for giving the secret of the atomic bomb to the Soviets. “Gail Kelly (born Gail Currer on 25 April 1956 in Pretoria, South Africa) is an Australian and South African business person. In 2002 she became the first woman CEO of a major Australian bank or top 15 company and, as at 2005, was the highest paid woman at an Australian corporation. She took up the position of CEO at Westpac in 2008.” According to wikipedia. “Indra Krishnamurthy Nooyi (born October 28, 1955) is an Indian American executive and is the Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of PepsiCo Incorporated.[3] On August 14, 2006, Nooyi was named the successor to Steven Reinemund as chief executive officer of the company effective October 1, 2006.[4][5] On February 5, 2007, she was named Chairperson, effective May 2, 2007.” according to Wikipedia. That was SO much work, I understand why you just ranted out a point without research. :rolleyes: Africa and Asia aren’t all 3rd world. American cinema and television is transmitted and followed all over the world. Being the most famous out lesbian, having the talk show that is replacing Oprah, being a international covergirl model, and being on American Idol means a handful of people in Japan, China, India, and Africa might know who she is. It’s about money and visibility more than anything. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/274 "2010-10-09T08:12:47Z")
Will Octomom be relevant one, two, three, four, Five years from now. More influential ten years down the road than Steffi? I’m not claiming Octomom is at the top now… In her Genre’ Katie G. holds the title. I think the Quiverfull God Lady is just crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/275 "2010-10-10T03:11:08Z")
> [@Steampunk\_Willie](#): > > That was SO much work, I understand why you just ranted out a point without research. :rolleyes: The point was it’s odd to have a “most powerful” person whom you _have_ to look up. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/276 "2010-10-10T05:47:51Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > > [@Steampunk\_Willie](#): > > > > That was SO much work, I understand why you just ranted out a point without research. :rolleyes: > > The point was it’s odd to have a “most powerful” person whom you _have_ to look up. Really? I mean, short of the media whores, I don’t really know the names of the CEOs of most companies. . . ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/277 "2010-10-11T02:14:58Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > > [@Steampunk\_Willie](#): > > > > That was SO much work, I understand why you just ranted out a point without research. :rolleyes: > > The point was it’s odd to have a “most powerful” person whom you _have_ to look up. Powerful ≠ popular or famous. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/278 "2010-10-11T04:24:43Z")
I still question the worldwide “power” of a Pepsi CEO. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/279 "2010-12-25T04:25:08Z")
Just thought I’d pop in to mention something I heard at a party last night. I was talking to an Aussie who has traveled extensively throughout the world this year, and he mentioned “Bad Romance” is playing in every single place he’s been to. They’re playing it everywhere in Egypt. They’re playing it in Hungary. You name it, it’s playing there. There is no place on Earth you can go to get away from it. (MTV’s even playing it now as I type this.) He wasn’t complaining, just remarking, and I immediately thought of this thread. I think Lady Gaga will be around for some time to come. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006/280 "2010-12-25T19:50:22Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Just thought I’d pop in to mention something I heard at a party last night. I was talking to an Aussie who has traveled extensively throughout the world this year, and he mentioned “Bad Romance” is playing in every single place he’s been to. They’re playing it everywhere in Egypt. They’re playing it in Hungary. You name it, it’s playing there. There is no place on Earth you can go to get away from it. (MTV’s even playing it now as I type this.) He wasn’t complaining, just remarking, and I immediately thought of this thread. I think Lady Gaga will be around for some time to come. He probably just forgot to mention the shrines to Octomom he saw in each of those locations as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-lady-gaga-be-relevant-a-year-from-now/554006.md?page=15)