Will Libertarianism ever be more than a fringe movement?

Your system works 100% of the time in theory. Mine works 90% of the time in reality. Which can you ride farther on - a horse or a unicorn?

Sure, now. Everyone says slavery is bad now. Hell, the Ku Klux Klan probably says it.

But back in 1850? Convince me that Libertarians, who always say that property rights are the most sacred right of man and are opposed to any government regulation over “social” issues, wouldn’t have been 100% against abolition. At best, you might have had a few Libertarins saying that slavery was kind of wrong - but it would be even more wrong to force people to stop.

Here, to bring up a few more examples, and forgive me if they’ve been discussed, but it mostly seemed to be health issues: safety codes.

What about fire codes? We have certain building codes that have to be followed. Under Libertaria, would fire codes also be a thing of the past? What about Emergency exits?

What’s to prevent disasters such as the Titanic, where no there was no law to provide lifeboats for all aboard?
Or the case of the General Slocum, where there had been no inspections, the life jackets were so old the cork had turned to dust. Anyone who used one ending drowning. The lifeboats in many cases were permanetly tied down to the boat. The firehoses had dryrotted.

And all of this neglect was due to the company’s desire to save money.

I’ll never understand the point of these threads. Libertarians can’t agree on much (beyond, uh, less government), just like liberals or conservatives can’t agree on much. Every time these threads get started you get a hundred different answers from whoever replies, and tons of strawmen like the people who think Libertarianism is anarchy.

And I’m not even a Libertarian, bleh.

The problem is, you can’t have a pure “insert particular philosophy here” society. It’s always going to be a mishmash of ideas.

That being said, I’d still like to hear IdahoMauleMan’s and Sam Stone’s answer to my post above.

Theoretically no, but in practice it’d be awfully close.