# Will men ever give up suits and ties?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 23, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640 "2016-07-23T00:49:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/41 "2016-07-24T01:33:25Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> For formal events they still pretty much are stuck with a suit and tie.

I think you mean “glory in”. Suits are cool, .and a good tie is awesome. Women love them, too.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/42 "2016-07-24T02:50:09Z")

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> I think we are overlooking the benefits of wearing a suit - which also applies to women who wear business apparel. A suit conveys formality, seriousness, and respect. Furthermore simply wearing a suit helps that person to think in a more considered way.
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> From the Atlantic - " Rutchick and his co-authors found that wearing clothing that’s more formal than usual makes people think more broadly and holistically, rather than narrowly and about fine-grained details."
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> [Dressing Up the Brain: Wearing a Suit Makes You Think Differently - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/wearing-a-suit-makes-people-think-differently/391802/)

yes, and we also think someone who speaks with a British accent is smarter.

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**Author:** ![HeXen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@HeXen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeXen)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/43 "2016-07-24T03:03:24Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Lots of guys are giving them up. But the real problem with ties and suits is that men don’t trouble themselves to shop. I am simply astounded that there are guys who will buy shirts off the rack without trying them on first.

I never try anything on. I know my sizes but if it didn’t fit to my liking I just take it back, no biggie.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/44 "2016-07-24T03:35:42Z")

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> [@HeXen](#):
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> I never try anything on. I know my sizes but if it didn’t fit to my liking I just take it back, no biggie.

If it doesn’t fit, it’s because you DON’T know your size. Bodies aren’t static. I was a lot bigger at 40 than I was at 25; even before I got sick, I was a lot smaller at 44 than I was at 40.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/45 "2016-07-24T03:36:52Z")

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Hey **Skald** , do you think we should try shirts on before we buy them? 😉

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/46 "2016-07-24T03:42:11Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Hey **Skald** , do you think we should try shirts on before we buy them? 😉

It’s just that the statement “I know my sizes, so I don’t try om shirts before buy them, and if I buy something that doesn’t fit I just take it back!” strikes me as ludicrous.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/47 "2016-07-24T09:55:12Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Ties are no more an “anachronism” than they were 100 years ago. They never served a practical purpose. They’re just fashion.
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> Personally, I like wearing a suit for work. Or at the very least, wear something that looks put together. I hate that Silicon Valley “dress like a 15 year old for work” mentality.

It isn’t ‘dress like a 15 year old’. It is ‘dress how you do away from work’. I’m about to go out into town to meet some friends. I will be wearing pretty much what I was wearing in work last week.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/48 "2016-07-24T11:43:58Z")

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I worked in a press room for 25 years. My favorite thing about leaving the printing industry was that I got to dress like a grown-up.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/49 "2016-07-24T12:11:53Z")

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It’s not a question of giving them up, it’s a question of fashion and custom. Fashion changes and customs die out. See: powdered wigs.

I look good in a suit, don’t find them the least bit uncomfortable and chicks still dig 'em. Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/50 "2016-07-24T12:15:03Z")

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> [@DonLogan](#):
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> It’s not a question of giving them up, it’s a question of fashion and custom. Fashion changes and customs die out. See: powdered wigs.
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> I look good in a suit, don’t find them the least bit uncomfortable and chicks still dig 'em. Nuff said.

How are you in a suit with no necktie?

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/51 "2016-07-24T12:37:29Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> How are you in a suit with no necktie?

Well, the best look in a tailored suit requires the top button (of a two-button) to be fastened, and that looks incredibly stupid if you’re not wearing a tie.

And the current fashion is for suit pants to have cuffs.

So the real answer is, I wouldn’t wear a tailored suit with no tie, I’d wear a sportsjacket and pants with no cuffs instead. No fastening the jacket button in that case, either. Looks OK, but not as good as a suit and tie. Depends on the occasion, it’s definitely possible to be overdressed.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/52 "2016-07-24T12:58:49Z")

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To the guys who think suits are uncomfortable, you need to start shopping at better shops. Or stop letting your wives buy it for you, women’s clothing is supposed to be uncomfortable apparently.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/53 "2016-07-24T13:11:46Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> To the guys who think suits are uncomfortable, you need to start shopping at better shops. Or stop letting your wives buy it for you, women’s clothing is supposed to be uncomfortable apparently.

Oh, for the record, my _suits_ are plenty comfortable; I merely despise neckties.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/54 "2016-07-24T13:34:18Z")

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I think it’s really funny when people wear suit/tie to a sporting event. That’s mostly a southern thing. They view the game as a big social event. For students mostly frats/sororities dress up for games. It’s mostly for FB but some do it for BB too.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/55 "2016-07-24T14:23:41Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> I think you mean “glory in”. Suits are cool, .and a good tie is awesome. Women love them, too.

End of the night

Tuxedo

Bow tie, untied and draping over the unbuttoned collar.

Swoons. (Must stop watching old movies).

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/56 "2016-07-24T21:08:36Z")

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See, today is a dove-grey single-breasted Paul Smith mod suit with lavender pinstripes, a paler grey and white shirt, and a lilac tie, with this awesome Flash Gordon rocket silver tie clip. And it’s cold today, so I have this huge old Dunn & Co slate grey Border Tweed overcoat over it all. I look _good_.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/57 "2016-07-24T23:16:35Z")

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A man with a couple of suits and a few ties in his closet has more options than a man whose closet contains only casual clothes.

Those who refuse formality are as narrow-minded as those who demand it.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/58 "2016-07-25T00:04:21Z")

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The only choice that matters is the choice to wear what you want, or the choice to not wear what you don’t want.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/59 "2016-07-25T00:12:54Z")

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I threw away all my suits and sport jackets 30 years ago and haven’t had a need to wear one since.

Except, so far – one time. A good friend died, and she specified in her last instructions that I was to be one of the pallbearers. So I had to borrow a jacket and dig up a tie for that occasion, as I didn’t want to stand out in the casket-carrying group. I still have the jacket, just in case someone else dies.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-men-ever-give-up-suits-and-ties/760640/60 "2016-07-25T03:13:56Z")

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So, you’re saying you threw them all away because you never need one except for when you need one, which you own.

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