# Will my Biological Clock tick? Want Kids?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 3, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739 "2016-05-03T00:51:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/41 "2016-05-03T15:42:25Z")

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Generally speaking, I agree with everyone who has said you should probably break this off. Sorry, I know you probably don’t want to hear that but there ya’ go.

That being said… I got married to a woman who was emphatic from the beginning of our relationship that she did not want kids. I, on the other hand, did not have strong feelings either way. I never felt a strong feeling that I must have children or my life would be incomplete. But I did have moments where I’d get sentimental about having a son or daughter. All I could promise her was that I was not ready to say with 100% conviction that I do not want kids but that if she did not want them then I would and could respect her decision. I never brought the subject up, never put any pressure on her about changing her mind, etc. after promising to respect her decision.

Fast forward to our honeymoon several years later when she rolled over in bed and asked me “Maybe one?”. :eek:

We discussed it over the next 6 months or so before both agreeing to give it a try. If it happened, it was meant to be. If not, then it was not meant to be. Our daughter is not just over a year old and neither of us have any regrets. 😃

Obviously our situation was different. Like you, my wife was adamant about not having kids. Unlike your boyfriend, I was not adamant about having kids. I think that difference may (or may not) be a bridge too far.

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**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/42 "2016-05-03T17:09:20Z")

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Whether or not you want children is a pretty big deal. It is one of the fundamental things that you should agree on before you decide to marry anyone. You can’t have children halfway, so compromise really doesn’t work here. If you are both adamant on your positions, this is NOT the right man for you. You should put it right out on the table and make that decision before you get any deeper into the relationship.

That being said, if you’d asked me at 18 if I wanted kids, I’d have said “no way”. I was an only child and wasn’t around children much and thus had no real interest in them. However, once I got a little older, my friends were having children and I got to spend some time with them and learned that I actually did like kids and would want to have some of my own.

My younger son is going through something similar right now. He’s been dating the same girl for three years and is deeply committed to her. But he has hesitated repeatedly to ask her to marry him because she is incapable of having children and he wants them. She is amenable to adopting, so they may eventually be able to work this out, but I still wonder if it won’t destroy their relationship at some point.

This is a tough thing to go through and I wish you the very best of luck in making your decision.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/43 "2016-05-03T17:24:34Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> You don’t want kids. He wants four. The relationship’s not going to work out. 😕

My husband started off wanting four kids. Then once the first was born, reality hit and we decided two was plenty. Her bf might change his mind too.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/44 "2016-05-03T21:17:35Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> My husband started off wanting four kids. Then once the first was born, reality hit and we decided two was plenty. Her bf might change his mind too.

You can usually only have kids one at a time. I wanted four kids and my wife wanted two.

We had one and we stopped.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/45 "2016-05-03T21:39:50Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> My husband started off wanting four kids. Then once the first was born, reality hit and we decided two was plenty. Her bf might change his mind too.

And if he doesn’t?

I gave up on the third baby that I so dearly wanted - the “compromise” between two and three is one person not getting what they want at all - and have spent several years struggling with the resentment and disappointment. I did agree to it because it was the logical choice for our situation but that didn’t make me feel OK with it. Now, five years later, I’m finally feeling like I’ve made my peace with it, but it did negatively affect our relationship for a time.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/46 "2016-05-03T21:46:55Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Based on her scenario if she’s 100% honest with him about her extreme ambivalence to be a mom and it’s important to him to be a dad he’s probably going to walk. Baby/no baby are level one deal breakers in terms of maintaining relationships.

Well, I’m sure you’d agree that she shouldn’t be dishonest about her ambivalence, just to keep hold of him.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/47 "2016-05-03T21:50:43Z")

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> And if he doesn’t?
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> I gave up on the third baby that I so dearly wanted - the “compromise” between two and three is one person not getting what they want at all - and have spent several years struggling with the resentment and disappointment. I did agree to it because it was the logical choice for our situation but that didn’t make me feel OK with it. Now, five years later, I’m finally feeling like I’ve made my peace with it, but it did negatively affect our relationship for a time.

I guess the question is if you feel like it was a mistake to marry your husband, then? It seems to me that so many people change their minds–in both directions–about exactly how many children they want, and there are so many unpredictable circumstances that will have an impact (how much money you end up making, if a child early on has special needs, how difficult pregnancy is, etc. etc.)–that it seems like it would be tragic and misguided to leave someone who was a good, strong match in every way except one person thought the probably wanted 4 kids and the other thought they probably wanted one or two.

It’s one thing to marry someone who is sure they don’t want kids if you are sure you do. But I think it’s a reasonable risk to have different ideas about the final tally. So much can change.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/48 "2016-05-03T21:58:29Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> I guess the question is if you feel like it was a mistake to marry your husband, then? It seems to me that so many people change their minds–in both directions–about exactly how many children they want, and there are so many unpredictable circumstances that will have an impact (how much money you end up making, if a child early on has special needs, how difficult pregnancy is, etc. etc.)–that it seems like it would be tragic and misguided to leave someone who was a good, strong match in every way except one person thought the probably wanted 4 kids and the other thought they probably wanted one or two.
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> It’s one thing to marry someone who is sure they don’t want kids if you are sure you do. But I think it’s a reasonable risk to have different ideas about the final tally. So much can change.

We got to the point where we separated. It wasn’t the only issue we had at the time, but it greatly exacerbated the rest of what we were dealing with. We got past it, we got back together, and I got more chilled out about it as the window of opportunity closed, but yeah… If he’d been open about only wanting 2 children from the start when we discussed it, I probably would have moved on.

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**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/49 "2016-05-03T22:40:54Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> OTOH …
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> You are not getting married right now. And you are being straight-forward and honest with said man-friend that you do not, at least at this point, see yourself living that four kids life, and are not sure you want any kids at all.
> 
> Whether or not _his_ time is being wasted or not with you at this point should be for him to decide.
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> The issue that matters is if you think you are somehow wasting _your_ time being with someone for now that might not end up being your life partner.
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> If you think _you’d_ be better off being unattached and open to finding the potential life partner who also will not want kids, then break it off. But you’d have to have very little respect for him indeed to make the decision for him of what is best for him.
> 
> As to what you will think in five years? Danged if I know. Could it change? Sure. Or not. Nor can any of us know how he’ll feel then, or after some hypothetical one child.

This is excellent advice.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/50 "2016-05-03T23:46:52Z")

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> [@missesther](#):
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> I’ve been dating a wonderful man for about a year and things are pretty serious. He is the man I want to be with for the long haul. We’ve discussed marriage and children, and are in agreement that marriage would come first (ideally). He 110% wants kids. I’m not so sure.
> 
> I’ve worked with kids in various capacities from my teenage years on, and with the whole gamut of ages. I like kids. They can be adorable, but they can also be huge pains. If I’m with children for more than an hour at a time, my patience quickly wears thin. At one point, I worked at a daycare and nearly every day wanted to pull my hair out in frustration. Even babysitting just a couple kids, I do it only for the money. If I wasn’t making money, I probably wouldn’t want to be in the same room as children for an extended period of time. In general (of course there are exceptions) I can’t stand babies, love toddlers, like preschoolers, barely tolerate elementary-middle schoolers, and somewhat like high schoolers. If I could keep a child at the toddler age forever, I’d want one right now. But that’s not how it works. I digress…
> 
> I am well aware of the joys of parenting, and have wonderful parents who gave me an amazing childhood. However, from working with kids, I also know the nitty-gritty and the mundane ugliness of raising children.  
> I also have concerns about what kind of world I would be bringing a child into. This isn’t utopia. Depression and anxiety runs rampant through my family. My boyfriend’s family has their share of genetic goodies. The world is a scary place. I’d be adding to my anxiety levels ten times over if I had a child(ren) running about.
> 
> The world has way too many people for my taste, and 95% of them frustrate and annoy me. We’re running out of resources. We’re wasteful and materialistic. People in general kind of suck. When I imagine the world 100 years from now, I see a rather bleak picture. Why would I subject an innocent child (and potential grandchildren) to that? Yes, there is the potential that my child could be the one to cure cancer or [insert amazing feat here], but the likelihood of that is pretty much nil. It’s more likely that I will just be adding another selfish, materialistic, consumer (like me) to a world that needs far fewer. This potential child will have heartbreak and pain, and a thousand other things I cannot protect them from. Is life worth living? Overall, I guess so, but usually life is a lot of long depressing valleys interspersed with short peaks of goodness. Do I want to make another human go through all those valleys just to experience the fleeting peaks of happiness?
> 
> I also am extremely introverted. I work and go to school, and then I have a solid 5-6 hours of alone time before I go to bed. I relish that time. I need that time. If I had a child, my alone time would be cut drastically. I need at least a couple hours alone every day to just work out my thoughts and get things done. I have great difficulty accomplishing things if I can’t cut out a solid block of time to focus.
> 
> I, like every other human, like sleeping. I’m not one of those people who can function on less than 6 hours of sleep. I can get by on 6.5 hours, but less than that makes me grouchy, moody, and depletes my patience even faster. I don’t like to think about what the first six months of a potential baby’s life would be like if I’m running on 5 or less hours of sleep a night. Also, my boyfriend needs more sleep than I do… not sure what he would do if his sleep suddenly got cut.
> 
> Lastly, my boyfriend wants 4 kids. I only want 1. Maybe 2… maybe. I just don’t think I could handle more than one and keep my sanity. Parenting is not like a day job that you can clock out of. If they get sick at 2 am, you’re up with them. If they need to go to the doctor, you have to take them. If they can’t sleep, you have to deal with it. If work is stressful and the kids are being fussy in the evening and won’t let you relax, too bad. Once the kids are at the age where they start having sports practices, or school plays, or cub scouts… you now have sports practice, school plays, or cub scouts. Your free time goes out the window. Like I said, I value my alone time, and I need a lot of it. And once they turn 18, there’s no guarantee they’ll be self-sufficient. Hell, I was a lot older than 18 before I moved out of my parents’ house.
> 
> Oh, and then once I have an empty nest, my parents will be at the age where they might start needing help. I exchange an adult child for another adult child so to speak. Will my child feel the same sense of duty / being trapped, and feel like they have to take care of me in my old age? I wouldn’t want that for them.
> 
> Boyfriend and I are in our mid twenties, and I will not be done with my schooling until closer to 30. After I’m done with school, I’d like to work for a couple years at least before having a baby. At this point, I’m thinking I’d want to put the baby in daycare after a month or two of maternity leave, and get right back to work. If I’ve put in all this effort to go through school and get a good job that I like, I’ll want to be working! I don’t want to be a stay at home mom. I’ll either go the daycare route, or hire a nanny. But that makes me think that I really don’t want to be the one raising my own child… so why have a child at all?
> 
> Boyfriend wants children. No doubt in his mind. My parents want grandchildren. I’m not going to have a baby just to make my parents and my boyfriend happy. I think a child should be wanted 100%. Accidental pregnancies happen of course, but in an ideal world, every child would be planned and wanted. So, if I have kids, I want to want them. But at this point, I’m really on the fence. The thing is, with my boyfriend being so sure about it, I’d hate to have us get married in the next couple years and me decide I don’t want kids. Then we’d be married to partners who want completely opposite things. Even if we don’t marry in the next few years, I don’t want to waste his time (or my own) on this relationship if we’ll end up having different goals for our lives. How can I know what future me will want? My 30 year old self may be in baby fever mode, or I might be ambivalent. I don’t want to hurt my boyfriend by being with him for several years and then us having to end the relationship because he wants kids and I don’t.
> 
> Is it likely I’ll change my mind? Will I want kids in a few years? Or do I already have my answer… and I need to make a difficult decision about my relationship? Anyone have a similar experience and care to share?

You don’t want kids, probably never will. And that means, no matter how wonderful a person you may be, a man who wants kids would be a fool to marry you.

This isn’t a small matter you could compromise over. This is a deal breaker.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/51 "2016-05-04T12:38:39Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> What, are you shocked that your blanket advice turns out not to be good for everyone? Or just shocked that someone admits they wouldn’t do it again. I love my kids. I really wanted kids - we went through years of fertility treatment and adopted one of them. I’ve been a good mom. I’ve sacrificed a lot. But I don’t think I’d do it again. In addition to them taking a lot out of me (I have some significant mental health issues), I also don’t think the world is a great place for kids. I sit around (significant mental health issues) worried about the effect of global warming on my kids.
> 
> I see my daughter (she is the biological one) getting the genetic inheritance I got - anxiety and depression. And wondering why I burdened her with that - because it SUCKS to be so depressed you think you would be better off dead.

Not wanting kids is one thing. Having living, breathing kids and wishing they never existed sounds like a symptom of your mental health issues. Best wishes that it gets better for you.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/52 "2016-05-04T12:40:22Z")

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She hasn’t said she wishes _they_ didn’t exist. What she’s said is that she wouldn’t put _herself_ through that particular grinder again.

I don’t wish Calculus didn’t exist but I don’t ever want to take another Calculus class. Different things.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/53 "2016-05-04T12:41:11Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> That’s how I feel about some of your previous remarks.

Thank you for the compliment.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/54 "2016-05-04T14:35:15Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Not wanting kids is one thing. Having living, breathing kids and wishing they never existed sounds like a symptom of your mental health issues. Best wishes that it gets better for you.

So are the only choices possible are someone is either glad they chose to be a parent, or they are mentally ill? I could see that someone could love their kids, but they don’t love a lot of what parenthood involves, and they imagine an alternate universe in which they didn’t have kids and were happier. That doesn’t make them terrible people or mentally ill, and I’m guessing there are more people like that out there who just don’t say anything since they’re afraid of being accused of being terrible.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/55 "2016-05-04T14:49:24Z")

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On a semi-related note, today is my son’s second birthday! 🙂 He started his day by noticing his birthday cupcakes and asking for a bite, then luring me into spending some time playing with him before my shower with promises of a smooch (which are always withdrawn once I’m within about 5 feet of him). Little manipulator! I love every moment with the little bug.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/56 "2016-05-04T14:50:46Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> So are the only choices possible are someone is either glad they chose to be a parent, or they are mentally ill? I could see that someone could love their kids, but they don’t love a lot of what parenthood involves, and they imagine an alternate universe in which they didn’t have kids and were happier. That doesn’t make them terrible people or mentally ill, and I’m guessing there are more people like that out there who just don’t say anything since they’re afraid of being accused of being terrible.

The mental illness diagnosis was hers, not mine. I don’t know her well enough to make a highly personal claim like that.

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**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/57 "2016-05-04T14:52:44Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> On a semi-related note, today is my son’s second birthday! 🙂 He started his day by noticing his birthday cupcakes and asking for a bite, then luring me into spending some time playing with him before my shower with promises of a smooch (which are always withdrawn once I’m within about 5 feet of him). Little manipulator! I love every moment with the little bug.

I’m curious about your motivation for this post. Do you think that anyone who expresses anything less than over-the-top glee about parenting doesn’t have those moments or share a similar joy in their child/children?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/58 "2016-05-04T15:09:55Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> On a semi-related note, today is my son’s second birthday! 🙂 He started his day by noticing his birthday cupcakes and asking for a bite, then luring me into spending some time playing with him before my shower with promises of a smooch (which are always withdrawn once I’m within about 5 feet of him). Little manipulator! I love every moment with the little bug.

So there is a significant difference between you and I. I’ve been doing this for seventeen years. I’m also guessing you are male - and if so - statistically even if you try your best to co parent, your wife takes on the majority of the child rearing activities.

For me that’s involved working full time. Going to school part time for part of it, raising two children within thirteen months of each other, dealing with my sister’s cancer, my brother in law’s death from cancer, my other sisters substance abuse, my daughters diagnoses, my son’s diagnoses, aging parents, aging in laws and my own health. For parts of this my husband would spend weeks in China for his job.

Boy are they cute when they are two. Boy is it a pain in the back end when the fifteen year old sneaks out after curfew and your husband hasn’t been home in a month except for a weekend or two and your daughter is failing a class because the work is done, but not turned in - and you have a major release at work so you are putting in ten hour days.

I don’t wish they’d never existed, but I don’t know that if I were to do it over again I’d have kids - maybe when they are launched and the teenage years are like the memory of labor I’ll feel differently. And I certainly would never tell anyone on the fence that they’ll change their mind, or that its different when they are yours (it is - for good and for bad), or that kids are fulfilling and worth it. Because boy would it suck to be raised by a mother who was only talked into having you in the first place and regrets it. I don’t regret it.

The OP sounds a lot like me. She already has mental health challenges - that appear to be genetically linked. She has decided she wants a career - and she isn’t sure if she wants kids (I knew I did and went out of my way to get them). If her biological clock DOES go off, she should think about hitting the snooze.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-my-biological-clock-tick-want-kids/753739/59 "2016-05-04T15:26:56Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> On a semi-related note, today is my son’s second birthday! 🙂 He started his day by noticing his birthday cupcakes and asking for a bite, then luring me into spending some time playing with him before my shower with promises of a smooch (which are always withdrawn once I’m within about 5 feet of him). Little manipulator! I love every moment with the little bug.

Maybe you should start a thread in MPSIMS:rolleyes:

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I prefer kittens.

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