# Will Napolitano take a dive **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 30, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987 "2009-12-30T00:48:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/41 "2009-12-30T19:42:18Z")
[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/30/jim-demint-now-says-democ_n_406939.html) Napolitano is the agency head. The TSA has been without a head because DeMint is holding up the Obama choice because he may allow unions. Now he says the Dems are trying to rush it through. They wont even consider him til jan. 19th. DeMint should take a piece of the blame. Still the whole thing is overblown. If a guy wants to blow himself up to disrupt airline travel, he could do it at the gates. He could do it at the ticket office. If he wants to give up his life to set off a real bomb ,he would be tough to stop. However if your claim is administrative failure, preventing the presidents choice to get seated is certainly a solid contribution. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/42 "2009-12-30T20:10:06Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > [**Napolitano stands by controversial report**](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/) (from April 16th) Napolitano had nothing to do with that report. It was comissioned by George W Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/43 "2009-12-30T20:37:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, and in fact, she was replaced by a Republican because Arizona does not have lieutenant governors. (The state Secretary of State takes over if the governor leaves.) But Napolitano’s term would have ended in January 2011, and she could not have run for re-election due to term limits. The border thing probably helped her security credentials and she was an early supporter of Obama’s - I think she was also considered a candidate for Attorney General. > > All that said, no, I still don’t think she’s going anywhere. I don’t see any smoking guns at this point. There will be an accounting from all agencies as to why this most basic of security issues had not already been addressed. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/44 "2009-12-30T20:48:08Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/30/jim-demint-now-says-democ\_n\_406939.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/30/jim-demint-now-says-democ_n_406939.html) Napolitano is the agency head. The TSA has been without a head because DeMint is holding up the Obama choice because he may allow unions. Now he says the Dems are trying to rush it through. They wont even consider him til jan. 19th. DeMint should take a piece of the blame. > Still the whole thing is overblown. If a guy wants to blow himself up to disrupt airline travel, he could do it at the gates. He could do it at the ticket office. If he wants to give up his life to set off a real bomb ,he would be tough to stop. > However if your claim is administrative failure, preventing the presidents choice to get seated is certainly a solid contribution. How long ago did Obama make his TSA nomination? ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/45 "2009-12-30T20:58:48Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > How long ago did Obama make his TSA nomination? September of this year was when Obama nominated him. Obama did not seem to be in a rush. The Democrats didn’t vote him out of committee until mid-November. You can’t blame this on DeMint when the Democrats themselves did not act as if there was a huge rush. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/46 "2009-12-31T01:40:33Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > The thing about Napolitano is that everything was fine when we scooped through her luscious chocolate and intriguing vanilla. But it all went to crap when we hit her strawberry center. Nobody likes the strawberry. And her response to disasters will be better because, unlike Brownie, she has the ways and means to New Orleans. ---
**Author:** ![VanLandry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@VanLandry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanLandry)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/47 "2009-12-31T01:57:22Z")
I think Obama is going to blame “the previous administration” just like he does on everything else… seems like a no-brainer to me. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/48 "2009-12-31T02:05:48Z")
> [@VanLandry](#): > > I think Obama is going to blame “the previous administration” just like he does on everything else… seems like a no-brainer to me. He only does that when it actually is the previous administration’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/49 "2009-12-31T05:08:22Z")
> [@VanLandry](#): > > I think Obama is going to blame “the previous administration” just like he does on everything else… seems like a no-brainer to me. I am ever so amused by the idea that the last eight years don’t count, and causality ceases whenever a new president takes office - but that aside, I don’t think Obama has said word one about this screw being the fault of the Bush administration. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/50 "2009-12-31T05:22:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Also, can the OP cite that it is HSA policy to actually ignore terror threats? (guessing no) C’mon, it’s been months since we invaded any new countries. How can you claim you’re fighting terrorism if you’re not invading anybody? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/51 "2009-12-31T05:29:02Z")
Here’s the deal: If Napolitano goes, it’s because there is an unspoken code that when something bad happens on a CEO’s watch, the CEO takes the blame for it. “The Buck Stops Here” actually means something. The heads of large organizations are held accountable for organizational failure, because the fear of that motivates them to do a good job. Napolitano, and Chertoff, and Ashcroft, and Holder, and all the rest of them have to know that a major screw-up on their watch will lead to having their heads put on a platter. And this is as it should be. They have to know that every decision they make, every bit of time they take off from doing oversight, could bite them hard in the ass if something goes wrong. It keeps 'em on their toes. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/52 "2009-12-31T06:15:38Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Here’s the deal: If Napolitano goes, it’s because there is an unspoken code that when something bad happens on a CEO’s watch, the CEO takes the blame for it. Then again, it might be nothing of the kind, but more in the nature of throwing something of conciliatory nature to the wolves, like the resignation of Van Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/53 "2009-12-31T09:07:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > C’mon, it’s been months since we invaded any new countries. How can you claim you’re fighting terrorism if you’re not invading anybody? The United States as been giving military assistance to Yemen. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/54 "2009-12-31T11:06:28Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The United States as been giving military assistance to Yemen. Which isn’t anything like the same thing, but then my sarcasm detector might be on the fritz. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/55 "2009-12-31T12:25:36Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Which isn’t anything like the same thing, but then my sarcasm detector might be on the fritz. I don’t know what sarcasm has to do with it. The United States has directly attacked Al Qaeda in Yemen. [From the Timesonline](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6969645.ece): \*\*Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, a terrorist cell led by a former personal secretary to Osama bin Laden, issued a statement saying that the failed attack by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was a response to American-backed airstrikes on the group in Yemen this month. \*\* The recent US terrorist attack was in response to military involvement in Yemen. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/56 "2009-12-31T13:08:02Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I don’t know what sarcasm has to do with it. The United States has directly attacked Al Qaeda in Yemen. > > [From the Timesonline](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6969645.ece): > \*\*Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, a terrorist cell led by a former personal secretary to Osama bin Laden, issued a statement saying that the failed attack by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was a response to American-backed airstrikes on the group in Yemen this month. \*\* > > The recent US terrorist attack was in response to military involvement in Yemen. Which is quite different from what happened in Iraq, is my point. It’s not anything like an invasion. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/57 "2009-12-31T13:27:08Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Which is quite different from what happened in Iraq, is my point. It’s not anything like an invasion. Hey, I’m with you, we should be able to bomb whomever we like as long as the local government is OK with it. It’s Al Queda that needs the convincing. So what’s the official US policy regarding hostile groups in countries that don’t cooperate? ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/58 "2009-12-31T16:49:44Z")
Gee, Oama says all these attacks are “isolated instances”-and Janet Napolitano doesn’t know why a reported terrorist (turned in by his own father) bwasn’t checked out. Will it be another “isolated instance” when a few hundred americans are murdered? Of course, we need to be sure that we have sufficient evidence to prosecute these murderer-Eric Holder says so! Be very afraid! Of course, we need to make sure we don’t violate any of these poor muslim’s right! ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/59 "2009-12-31T23:44:05Z")
What are “all these attacks?” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/60 "2009-12-31T23:47:20Z")
Why does the idea of this guy having a trial and getting life in a Federal Supermax prison offend Conservatives so much? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987.md?page=4)