# Will Napolitano take a dive

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 30, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987 "2009-12-30T00:48:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/61 "2010-01-04T15:34:06Z")

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> [@WarmNPrickly](#):
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> What are “all these attacks?”

Good question. The Underwear Bomber is the first to make even a serious **attempt** on U.S. soil in years.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/62 "2010-01-04T17:45:10Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Of course, we need to make sure we don’t violate any of these poor muslim’s right!

That’s right. Can you think of a reason their captors shouldn’t?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/63 "2010-01-04T17:57:44Z")

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Who is entitled to rights and who isn’t, **ralph**?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/64 "2010-01-04T18:01:56Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> And her response to disasters will be better because, unlike Brownie, she has the ways and means to New Orleans.

Um …

_Dallas, got the soft machine,  
Houston, too close to New Orleans,  
 **New York, got the ways and means,**  
They just won’t let you be-e-e-e…_

Napolitano embarrassed her boss in public, and if she goes, \*that \*will be why.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/65 "2010-01-11T20:05:09Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> It is pure bullshit to say, as the _Washington Times_ does in the linked article, that [the report in question](http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf) “lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.” It does list militias and “patriot” groups as terrorist risks, which they are, and returning veterans as a potential recruiting ground for such, which, sadly, they are; it would be dishonest to deny it. [Didn’t we cover all this back in April?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=514234) The RW position was all lies then and it’s all lies now.
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> And it remains a relevant issue. [Southern Poverty Law Center Report: Return of the Militias:](http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=392)
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> This is a real threat which it would be irresponsible for DHS to ignore.

See also the new documentary, _White Power USA: The Rise of Right-Wing Militias in America,_ excerpted [here:](http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/11/white_power_usa_the_rise_of)

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> BART McINTYRE: If you look at the potential of violence and the history of violence, the potential is tremendous.
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> RICK ROWLEY: Special Agent Bart McIntyre retired from the federal weapons control agency, the ATF, this January. As an undercover officer, he infiltrated a ring of white supremacist groups responsible for multiple murders.
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> BART McINTYRE: I mean, that was a belt buckle I would wear while we were undercover that we bought from one of the Klan rally sites.
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> RICK ROWLEY: He sees a perfect storm of economic and political conditions driving a rise in white supremacist violence.
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> BART McINTYRE: The economics, Obama being the black president, the Democratic-controlled Congress is all fueling the fires. The numbers may be small in the US, but you know there is an event sitting out there that could spark the movement, and all of a sudden you could see those numbers increase exponentially.
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> RICK ROWLEY: Special Agent McIntyre is not alone in his concern. Last spring, a US Department of Homeland Security report warned that right-wing extremists are now, quote, “the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.” \*\*The report’s most disturbing findings concern the movement’s attempt to recruit members inside the US military, something that McIntyre witnessed firsthand while working undercover.
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> BART McINTYRE: I mean, we were dealing with soldiers there out of Columbus, Georgia, and they were stealing military guns and explosives off the military base there. They were supplying it to white supremacist organizations. \*\*
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> RICK ROWLEY: Special Agent McIntyre fears that the country could return to the violence of the ’90s, when decorated Gulf War veteran Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma Federal Building, killing 168 people.
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> BART McINTYRE: Someone’s always looking to be the next martyr. A Timothy McVeigh could happen any day of any week.
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> RICK ROWLEY: In December of 2008, Kody Brittingham, a lance corporal in the US Marine Corps, was arrested for involvement in a string of armed robberies. In his barracks room, investigators found white supremacist material, a declaration that Barack Obama was a domestic enemy of America, and plans for Obama’s assassination. At one point, death threats against President Obama were running at record levels, averaging thirty a day. These numbers have dropped off since their peak around the time of the election and inauguration. But law enforcement around the US remains on its guard for violence from many corners of the white supremacist world.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-napolitano-take-a-dive/522987/66 "2010-01-12T21:06:00Z")

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Apparently **ralph** has no reasons. Fair 'nuff.

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