# Will NBC fold and fire Fallon and Meyers and, if so, when? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 18, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162 "2025-09-18T18:46:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/81 "2025-09-19T16:14:06Z")
I believe one wouldn’t need to dig _too_ far back in history to find that the Republican position differs from yours: > **[Weaponization Committee Exposes the Biden White House Censorship Regime in...](https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponization-committee-exposes-biden-white-house-censorship-regime-new-report)** > > WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "The Censorship-Industrial Complex [**The Censorship-Industrial Complex: How Top Biden White House Officials Coerced Big Tech to Censor Americans, True Information, and Critics of the Biden Administration - 98pg PDF**](https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Biden-WH-Censorship-Report-final.pdf) Now, AFAIK, _you_ don’t formally represent the Republican party, but I do find the above rather interesting. I would also argue that there’s a profound difference between: - Hewing closely to a company’s own Terms of Service during a pandemic in order to stanch the spread of truly dangerous misinformation, and - Punishing media outlets for “being mean to me.” ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/82 "2025-09-19T16:35:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The President literally said, “Kimmel is next to go” after Colbert’s show was cancelled. He must be a psychic and knew Kimmel would stick his foot in his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/83 "2025-09-19T16:37:26Z")
Again, I ask: What did Kimmel say that caused this to happen? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/84 "2025-09-19T16:39:04Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > He must be a psychic and knew Kimmel would stick his foot in his mouth. Trump has had a hate on for Kimmel for years. He’s not psychic; he was just waiting for an opportune moment. > **[Trump and Kimmel's Long, Fraught Feud, Revisited](https://time.com/7318768/trump-kimmel-feud-history-fired-threats-epstein-row/)** > > “The word is Jimmy Kimmel is next to go in the untalented late-night sweepstakes," Trump said in July. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/85 "2025-09-19T16:40:17Z")
And apparently lying about what Kimmel said against Kirk gave him the excuse he needed. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/86 "2025-09-19T16:41:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Again, I ask: What did Kimmel say that caused this to happen? What was said is easily found on the internet. I’m not going to engage your opinion on it. If you don’t understand that it pissed off Republicans that’s on you. You have no say in how other people feel. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/87 "2025-09-19T16:41:45Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > What was said is easily found on the internet. Then why do you refuse to post it? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/88 "2025-09-19T16:44:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Then why do you refuse to post it? What part of “I’m not going to engage your opinion on it” don’t you understand? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/89 "2025-09-19T16:44:37Z")
Here is the entirety of what Kimmel said: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said during his monologue. “And in between the finger pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level you can see how hard the president is taking this.” He said _nothing_ against Kirk. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/90 "2025-09-19T16:45:50Z")
The part where you apologize for saying that Kimmel said something that he actually didn’t say. I didn’t engage an opinion-I made a direct quote. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/91 "2025-09-19T16:53:09Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > There is no constitutional guarantee that corporations have to fund it. But there is a constitutional guarantee that the government can’t interfere with corporations funding it. In fact, there’s both the constitutional guarantee and an explicit Federal statute about it. But don’t take my word for it, let’s see [what the FCC itself says.](https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/public-and-broadcasting#:~:text=FCC%20Regulation%20of%20Broadcast%20Radio%20and%20Television.&text=As%20mentioned%20earlier%252C%20we%20expect,agencies%20to%20resolve%20these%20disputes.) The First Amendment and the Communications Act expressly prohibit the Commission from censoring broadcast matter. Our role in overseeing program content is very limited. We license only individual broadcast stations. We do not license TV or radio networks (such as CBS, NBC, ABC or Fox) or other organizations that stations have relationships with, such as PBS or NPR, except if those entities are also station licensees. Now watch FCC Chairman Brendan Carr interpret what “prohibiting censorship” does and doesn’t include. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ved5hVb4yfM/maxresdefault.jpg "FCC vs. Jimmy Kimmel: Brendan Carr condemns Charlie Kirk comments, challenges local broadcasters") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ved5hVb4yfM) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/92 "2025-09-19T17:00:20Z")
With the wealth of other broadcast media opportunities, would it be possible for writers, actors, directors, etc. to strike against ABC? Just everyone refuses to work for them and go elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/93 "2025-09-19T17:02:57Z")
Where would “elsewhere” be? It would have to be studios that not only have no affiliation with Disney/ABC, but have no plans to have any affiliation in the future. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/94 "2025-09-19T17:03:46Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > > The President literally said, “Kimmel is next to go” after Colbert’s show was cancelled. > > He must be a psychic and knew Kimmel would stick his foot in his mouth. Can I ask you to play this out for me? If, _arguendo,_ Kimmel _did_ “stick his foot in his mouth,” under what law, or what part of the Constitution, does this entitle the White House to threaten license revocation or other regulatory retribution unless a media corporation terminates/suspends a comedian, a show, or a broadcast? And would you please be specific? I’ve tried, and I can’t find the relevant law myself. Also, since Trump went on to effectively [**put NBC on notice**](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/kimmel-suspension-trump-sets-sights-115948695.html) that Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers should be next, would this be more a First Amendment violation, or is it legally more an issue of [**prior restraint**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_restraint). And does it matter, legally? [We’ll set aside for the moment your apparent failure to understand what Kimmel _did or did not_ actually say] Remember: Fox News had to pay $787,500,000.00 to settle a lawsuit that inarguably proved that Fox lied – day after day, week after week, month after month – about the results of the 2020 election, but – other than the settlement – I’ve heard nary a peep about the Trump administration threatening legal or regulatory action against _them._ Can you explain the apparent double-standard? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/95 "2025-09-19T17:09:08Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > With the wealth of other broadcast media opportunities, would it be possible for writers, actors, directors, etc. to strike against ABC? Just everyone refuses to work for them and go elsewhere? CBS (which is part of the company which also owns Paramount and BET, and is part-owner of the CW) has already caved; count on NBC to do so. Disney owns ABC, as well as Fox Broadcasting, ESPN, Lucasfilm, Marvel, etc. Most of that “wealth of other broadcast media opportunities” are owned by a relative handful of extremely large corporations, which have either already bent their corporate knees to Trump, or almost undoubtedly will do so. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/96 "2025-09-19T17:13:12Z")
A little context (for others): [![](https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/nuK9fi6vyQdqRnjELZDy0xrex74I1WVoeFNfh1inZUgwK2OwkNL-ZAoa5kvNu1o0YlyE9oxylC4wXM7q9RgYa6GjMScdzGOyWKtw6UbhHx_JzJi8zgG-T42RTiM2a7hj) ](https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/nuK9fi6vyQdqRnjELZDy0xrex74I1WVoeFNfh1inZUgwK2OwkNL-ZAoa5kvNu1o0YlyE9oxylC4wXM7q9RgYa6GjMScdzGOyWKtw6UbhHx_JzJi8zgG-T42RTiM2a7hj) TL;DR: [![](https://fiveable.me/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fstatic.prod.fiveable.me%2Fsearch-images%252F%2522Types_of_media_ownership%253A_private_public_state-owned%253B_examples_and_characteristics_of_each_structure.%2522-MediaConsolidation.png&w=1920&q=75) ](https://fiveable.me/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fstatic.prod.fiveable.me%2Fsearch-images%252F%2522Types_of_media_ownership%253A_private_public_state-owned%253B_examples_and_characteristics_of_each_structure.%2522-MediaConsolidation.png&w=1920&q=75) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/97 "2025-09-19T21:30:46Z")
Did we all see Trump’s comments on the Kimmel activity? At least Brendan Carr hid behind the thin veil of “public interest.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Dr_5gRwDTv4/maxresdefault.jpg "FULL VIDEO: Trump Takes Questions About Jimmy Kimmel, FCC, UK Trip On Air Force One") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr_5gRwDTv4&t=486) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/99 "2025-09-19T21:48:52Z")
**Moderating:** > [@Magiver](#): > > This is not a free speech issue. > > Kimmel and Colbert earn a paycheck from networks by generating money from advertisers. When that stream of revenue is jeopardized because they piss off consumers (not viewers) then the networks move on to shows that generate money from advertisers. This is a hijack from the OP, and your constant fanning of it, despite multiple posters trying to bring it back to the actual actions (who/what/why) taken you have continued to do so. To be clear, I am not moderating you on the content or factuality of your posts, but the effort to derail the conversation. In light of your multiple attempts to keep dragging the conversation off track, this will be an Official Warning for Hijacking. While other posters responded to the hijack (and I suggest in the future you flag it) Magiver was the instigator and the primary respondent. Still, to all, other than for comparison purposes, let’s focus on NBC’s possible future actions regarding Fallon and Meyers. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/101 "2025-09-20T17:45:34Z")
I can’t find a link. There are two possibilities. 1) Kimmel pointed out that the right is trying to make the killer out to be left when his family is MAGA. 2) Kimmel played a clip of a reporter asking trump how is was dealing with Kirk’s death. “I’m doing fine. By the way, over there is where we are building a ball room they’ve wanted for 150 years.” Kimmel said, “That is not the way one mourns a friend. That is how a four year old mourns a dead goldfish.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162/102 "2025-09-20T17:54:52Z")
What age are “younger viewers”? Screen shots of the audience shows mostly people in their 20s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-nbc-fold-and-fire-fallon-and-meyers-and-if-so-when/1023162.md?page=6)