# Will Rand Paul win in Kentucky?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 14, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211 "2010-06-14T22:32:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/101 "2010-10-27T12:21:53Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> The Rand Paul took its sweet time responding to the matter, but eventually did the right thing.

Paul lost whatever good will he might have been able to salvage from this with the “on both sides” comment. It also would have been classy to apologize to the victim, since the perpetrator was a member of Paul’s campaign apparatus.

Also troubling is that Paul did more than one TV appearance about this before the media or the police knew who the perp was. (Local lefty blog Barefoot and Progressive and its readers figured it out.) The Paul campaign had to know who he was, but they don’t appear to have told anyone. You’d think if they were genuinely contrite they would have come forward to identify the campaign worker.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/102 "2010-10-27T12:41:03Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Ironically, one of the men who held her down so Profitt could stomp her head was wearing a “Don’t Tread on Me” button

What irony? The Paulites just wanted to make sure that the stomper didn’t tread on the wrong person by mistake during the scuffle.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/103 "2010-10-27T13:16:46Z")

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The sad part is that the stomping incident [appears to have helped Paul in the polls](http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/kentucky).

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/104 "2010-10-27T13:42:28Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> The sad part is that the stomping incident [appears to have helped Paul in the polls](http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/kentucky).

How so? The latest poll in that link was taken Oct. 24, before this incident occurred.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/105 "2010-10-27T15:17:44Z")

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Now he’s saying that SHE should apologize to HIM:

> **[Rand Paul Supporter Wants Stomping Victim To Apologize To HIM](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rand-paul-supporter-tim-profitt_n_774614)**
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> Rand Paul Supporter Wants Stomping Victim To Apologize To HIM

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> “I don’t think it’s that big of a deal,” Profitt told WKYT. “I would like for her to apologize to me to be honest with you.”
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> While the victim, Lauren Valle, said Tuesday that she believed the campaign workers’ violent reaction to her presence there was “premeditated,” Profitt told WKYT that he thought Valle was following a strict protocol with the intent of creating controversy.
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> “She’s a professional at what she does,” Profitt said, “and I think when all the facts come out, I think people will see that she was the one that initiated the whole thing.”
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> He then blamed the forceful downward motion of his foot on the head of Valle as a function of chronic back pain, a claim he has made before:
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> “I put my foot on her, and I did push her down at the very end, and I told her to stay down. I actually put my foot on her to – I couldn’t bend over because I have issues with my back,” Profitt said.

Man these fuckers’ shamelessness really knows no bounds, does it?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/106 "2010-10-27T17:31:16Z")

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Next excuse (#9 I think) It’s the fault of the police:

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> Lexington Police began an assault investigation identifying Profitt as a suspect. “Well I’ll just say it, if the police had done what they were supposed to do, it would have never happened,” Profitt said.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/107 "2010-10-27T19:06:15Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> How so? The latest poll in that link was taken Oct. 24, before this incident occurred.

Good call. I saw the Oct. 28 date and thought it was a new poll. Ignorance fought.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/108 "2010-10-27T19:31:48Z")

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In related news, [Dem arrested at Eric Cantor (R-VA) event.](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-opinions/2010/10/eric_cantors_layers_of_defense.html)

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> And his refusal to debate his opponents raises questions about his newly found populism. One critic dresses up as a chicken and follows Cantor around as he campaigns claiming that the congressman is afraid to debate.
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> Cantor also has a tendency to surround himself with layers of defense, as was the case Monday when he appeared at a coffee shop in the small town of Louisa, supposedly to meet voters.
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> One man attending was John Taylor, a member of the Louisa County Democratic Committee and a backer of Rick Waugh, Cantor’s Democratic opponent. Taylor and two others were asked to leave the coffee shop. County police then subdued Taylor, as can be seen in a video shot by his son with his cell phone.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/109 "2010-10-27T20:27:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> In related news, [Dem arrested at Eric Cantor (R-VA) event.](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-opinions/2010/10/eric_cantors_layers_of_defense.html)

As Taylor was asked to leave private property by the owner of the property (the coffee shop owner), there is nothing really you can pin on Cantor’s campaign in this instance.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/110 "2010-11-01T19:16:00Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> The sad part is that the stomping incident [appears to have helped Paul in the polls](http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/kentucky).

Update: this may not have been true when I posted it, but it certainly seems true now.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rand-paul-win-in-kentucky/543211/111 "2010-11-01T19:46:32Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Update: this may not have been true when I posted it, but it certainly seems true now.

It’s Kentucky, and it’s not as if the lady were a horse.

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