# Will rewind fall from use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 11, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093 "2011-06-11T07:25:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/41 "2011-06-11T23:40:12Z")
[TV clicker](http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/tech-etymology-tv-clicker/236965/) ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/42 "2011-06-12T02:05:11Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > But this is a good example of the OP’s question. “Clicker” has fallen out of favor, even though it was extremely common back in the 60s. I was born in 1981 and I never heard anyone refer to a remote a clicker. OK, I guess I may have heard it on TV once or twice, but that’s because TV writers are old. If we’re going by personal anecdote, I was born in 1981 and called the device a “clicker”. I now tend to use “remote”, but that’s in part due to the fact that TVs are being replaced by computers and the term didn’t survive the transition. ---
**Author:** ![Blackhawk441](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Blackhawk441](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackhawk441)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/43 "2011-06-12T02:10:13Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > But this is a good example of the OP’s question. “Clicker” has fallen out of favor, even though it was extremely common back in the 60s. I was born in 1981 and I never heard anyone refer to a remote a clicker. OK, I guess I may have heard it on TV once or twice, but that’s because TV writers are old. I was born in '93 and the vast majority (80-90%) of people I know call it a clicker, not a remote. I think it is a regionalism. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/44 "2011-06-12T02:13:34Z")
I still want to know what the: \<\< button is called on DVD remotes. I thought even kids called it rewind. ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/45 "2011-06-12T02:24:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I still want to know what the: > > \<\< > > button is called on DVD remotes. I thought even kids called it rewind. I’ve seen “back”, but “rewind” is more common IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/46 "2011-06-12T02:38:21Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > ‘tape’ is still used to mean recording by those who lived when VCR and cassettes This may be a generational thing. I grew up with tapes and VCRs, but I don’t say “tape” something. I more often hear just the simple “record,” but I do hear older people say “tape” sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/47 "2011-06-12T03:06:03Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > What other words are still in use despite the process they describe no longer existing. I am sure there must be some, but damned if I can think of any at the moment. I can’t believe this thread has gone so far, and I’m the first to mention film, filming, filmmakers, and so on. A “film” is a thin layer of something, such as grease on a plate, or ice on a road. It was then taken to mean a strip of celluloid with photos or similar images on it. It was already a stretch when videotaping was called “filming”, but when it got to include direct-to-digital, that surely is what the OP is asking about. ---
**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/48 "2011-06-12T08:46:38Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > Dial: Enter or Input > Hang up: Disconnect or Terminate > Type: Input, Key or Punch > Roll down: Lower or Open > > There are common and easy alternatives to all those words as well. In fact all those words are commonly used alternatives to the (often slightly) more common archaic. Nonetheless the archaics hang on. > > Operate, ride, pilot, control and manipulate are all commonly used. Operate, especially, is common in technical and training manuals and in legal settings. But before performing any of these operations, don’t you have to _crank it up?_ ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/49 "2011-06-12T09:28:12Z")
> [@Keeve](#): > > It was already a stretch when videotaping was called “filming”. How so? Both VHS and Betamax involved films of plastic coated with magnetic materials, so recording to those media does involve film and can be called filming. Alternately, you can take the ‘film’ to be the magnetic material on the plastic tape, as that magnetic film actually carries the data. ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/50 "2011-06-12T10:59:54Z")
Interestingly professional audio recording studios don’t “tape” anything. Even if they use an old magnetic tape machine (which are still beloved by some for the unique sound they impart.) You have tracking sessions, where the artist(s) are recorded. This is distinct from mixing, or mastering. Tracking sessions being of course where you create the individual recorded tracks that feed the rest of the process. In many walks of life “filming” has given way to “videoing” which is at least some progress from a technological specific towards a more generic word for the process. Horrid word however. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/51 "2011-06-13T08:41:41Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Related to this is the word “dial-tone”; as some have alluded earlier phones haven’t had dials for a few decades. Dial-tones are also on the endangered list. Neither cell phones nor VOIP have them. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there are 20-somethings out there who’ve never heard one. > [@Keeve](#): > > A “film” is a thin layer of something, such as grease on a plate, or ice on a road. It was then taken to mean a strip of celluloid with photos or similar images on it. It was already a stretch when videotaping was called “filming”, but when it got to include direct-to-digital, that surely is what the OP is asking about. The film was a thin layer of photosensitive chemicals bonded by gelatin and spread on various substrates. Initially glass or metal, but then on various more flexible materials, including, but not limited to, celluloid. Yes, people did tend to use the term somewhat loosely, but there was always that layer of chemicals on what people called film. I don’t think anyone makes film anymore. Yet another technology that electronics has obsoleted. ---
**Author:** ![lurcio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b77776/32.png) [@lurcio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurcio)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/52 "2011-06-13T09:24:20Z")
Occasionally DVDs do need rewinding. I assume BluRay will as well… [http://www.dvdrewinder.com/](http://www.dvdrewinder.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/53 "2011-06-13T09:25:31Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Dial-tones are also on the endangered list. Neither cell phones nor VOIP have them. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there are 20-somethings out there who’ve never heard one. VOIP has a (fake) dial tone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/54 "2011-06-13T12:07:42Z")
Depends on your software. Some have dialtones, others don’t. The ones which look like traditional phones with handsets & cradles tend to have dial tones. The ones which are simply software & use your PC mike & speakers tend not to; they emulate a cellphone, i.e. enter the number first (I almost wrote dial…) then hit a [send] or [call] button. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/55 "2011-06-13T13:53:05Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I still want to know what the: > > \<\< > > button is called on DVD remotes. I thought even kids called it rewind. My nephew calls it the “back” button. ---
**Author:** ![unclelem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ac91a4/32.png) [@unclelem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclelem)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/56 "2011-06-13T14:44:43Z")
We still call them “albums” - though the term has completely lost its original association with the packaging of the product and now is associated with the length of the recording - even when there is no packaging at all. “rewind” may well survive if there is no better term to replace the concept of moving backwards in the data stream. Mr. Monk called it “picture go backward” on his video player. I doubt that one will catch on - except as a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/57 "2011-06-13T14:59:40Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > The film was a thin layer of photosensitive chemicals bonded by gelatin and spread on various substrates. Initially glass or metal, but then on various more flexible materials, including, but not limited to, celluloid. Yes, people did tend to use the term somewhat loosely, but there was always that layer of chemicals on what people called film. Maybe, but back in the days when the sensitive layer was spread on glass, the term for them was “plates”. Hence the old term for a large format camera was for a long time a “plate camera”. The sizes were also done in plates - where a “full plate” was 8 by 10 inches, and 8 by 5 was “half plate” and 4 by 5 was “quarter plate”. I have never heard a glass plate image called a film. > [@](#): > > I don’t think anyone makes film anymore. Yet another technology that electronics has obsoleted. Still in production. Many cinemas are still film projector based, and so there is a constant need for film for projection. Digital imaging for film production has not totally supplanted film yet, although it is making great, and ever faster, strides. In the area of still photography film is still made and in demand. Especially in medium and large formats. Fuji especially continue to make a wide range of film in colour and black and white. I still shoot film when the mood takes me. It is expensive, but since I can’t afford $50,000 for a Hasselblad 60Mp medium format kit, I stick with my trusty Mamiya 645. Perhaps most amusing is the reintroduction of Polaroid instant photo material. Mostly for the fun aspect, but people still buy it. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/58 "2011-06-13T15:16:48Z")
Re “Tape”: I can’t recall the particular TV show or film, and there may even be more than one example, but I know I’ve seen at least one character hold up a DVD and explicitly refer to it as a “tape.” As in, “If this tape goes public, your career is over!” We’re all still going “online” even if we’re using a wireless connection. ---
**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093/59 "2011-06-13T15:31:23Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > My nephew calls it the “back” button. What does he call the button that goes back a chapter? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-rewind-fall-from-use/585093.md?page=2)