# Will Sandusky be a man?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015 "2012-06-23T02:54:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/1 "2012-06-23T02:54:17Z")

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Convicted on 45 of 48 counts, and at 68 years old, he’s breathed his last breath of fresh air. Would seem to me that he could preserve his home/assets (assuming civil suits will soon follow) for his family if took his own life. But will he?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/2 "2012-06-23T02:59:55Z")

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Suicide won’t protect anything from a civil suit. You can sue an estate just like you can a live person.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/3 "2012-06-23T03:17:09Z")

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> [@SanDiegoTim](#):
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> Convicted on 45 of 48 counts, and at 68 years old, he’s breathed his last breath of fresh air. Would seem to me that he could preserve his home/assets (assuming civil suits will soon follow) for his family if took his own life. But will he?

I’d like to object to the premise of the thread that committing suicide would somehow make anyone a ‘man’

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/4 "2012-06-23T03:19:36Z")

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Reported for forum change.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/5 "2012-06-23T03:32:50Z")

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While we’re still in GQ, is Sandusky even under any kind of suicide watch?

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/6 "2012-06-23T03:34:13Z")

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Back when the reports came out, political commentator Jimmy Williams predicted “He’ll be dead in six months.”

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/7 "2012-06-23T03:37:25Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> I’d like to object to the premise of the thread that committing suicide would somehow make anyone a ‘man’

To me, if he’d done it back before he ever molested a child, it’d have made him a better person. Wouldn’t accomplish much of anything now.

> [@gaffa](#):
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> Back when the reports came out, political commentator Jimmy Williams predicted “He’ll be dead in six months.”

That does seem to happen sometimes, even in the absence of suicide. Hosni Mubarak, Ken Lay, probably others . . .

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/8 "2012-06-23T03:47:39Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> While we’re still in GQ, is Sandusky even under any kind of suicide watch?

Most likely yes.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/9 "2012-06-23T03:56:13Z")

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Not sure that suicide is a valid qualifier for manhood.

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**Author:** ![Rhaegar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/51bf81/32.png) [@Rhaegar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhaegar)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/10 "2012-06-23T05:41:05Z")

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Commiting suicide will neither stop a lawsuit nor get his family any life insurance money. And Sandusky strikes me as the kind of guy who still doesn’t know that what he did was wrong. He was just being a “big kid” after all, eh?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/11 "2012-06-23T06:06:34Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Back when the reports came out, political commentator Jimmy Williams predicted “He’ll be dead in six months.”

I doubt he was talking about suicide.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/12 "2012-06-23T06:25:15Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I doubt he was talking about suicide.

No, in the context I’m pretty sure he was of the opinion that it would be by his own hand.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/13 "2012-06-23T10:06:47Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> While we’re still in GQ, is Sandusky even under any kind of suicide watch?

I heard that he is.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/14 "2012-06-23T10:22:24Z")

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Morbid, but I’ve wondered why more people with convictions but unexhausted appeals don’t go the [Kenneth Lay](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lay#Abatement_of_conviction) route. Seems almost like a get out of jail free card, except for the being dead part.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/15 "2012-06-23T10:53:54Z")

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IANAP, but I cannot understand how, given his situation, suicide wasn’t chosen months ago.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/16 "2012-06-23T10:58:56Z")

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Ianap?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/17 "2012-06-23T11:16:39Z")

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My guess is the _p_ stands for _predator, pervert, pederast,_ or _pedophile_.

And what’s with the bloodlust? No, I’m not defending the scum who just got convicted. I’m simply absolutely against the death penalty.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/18 "2012-06-23T11:19:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> My guess is the _p_ stands for _predator, pervert, pederast,_ or _pedophile_.

yep

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**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/19 "2012-06-23T20:58:38Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> While we’re still in GQ, is Sandusky even under any kind of suicide watch?

The comment I heard on one of the 24-hour “news” channels was that he is under a suicide watch, but only for his own protection.

I’m really not sure what they meant by that.

-D/a

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-sandusky-be-a-man/626015/20 "2012-06-23T21:23:06Z")

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> [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](#):
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> The comment I heard on one of the 24-hour “news” channels was that he is under a suicide watch, but only for his own protection.
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> I’m really not sure what they meant by that.
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> -D/a

Possibly that he might kill himself or inflict harm in trying in the first 48 to 72 hours, but would adjust afterwards to his new reality.

Declan

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