# Will Star Trek X be any good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 1, 2002, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856 "2002-08-01T12:41:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/21 "2002-08-02T17:19:41Z")
Berman and Braga hinted that they’d be using Enterprise, but lately Stewart has denied he’s retiring from the Captain’s chair. The big one i think will be Data, how will Spiner keep playing an android as he gets older? (transfer him to a robot body, like C-3PO!!!1 and give him a sidekick, a talking garbage can that beeps…) ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/22 "2002-08-02T19:04:44Z")
Gah! Am I the only one that actually liked “Insurrection?” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/23 "2002-08-02T21:24:38Z")
_Insurrection_ wasn’t the worst, by far, but it was overinflated. It had a TV episode plot stretched out to fill a movie. I mean, a Star Trek movie is supposed to have the crew saving the Universe, or the human species, or at least planet Eartg. Saving some rinky-dink planet in the middle of nowhere is not a movie plot, even if it does have the fountain of youth on it. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/24 "2002-08-02T22:46:03Z")
Planet Eartg. i visited there once. Not worth saving, IMHO… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MrThompson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MrThompson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrThompson)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/25 "2002-08-02T23:59:15Z")
I read the script a few months ago, and it’s… okay. Some of it is stupid, but y’know, what do you expect with ST? I’m fairly sure it’s the last NG movie they make - without giving the end of the movie away, it makes it seem like they won’t do it any more. (No, I don’t mean that they all get blown up. Wait - that’s a spoiler. I don’t mean that they dont’ all get blown up either). You have to remember that this crew has been together for what, 14 years now? It’s getting a bit silly. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/26 "2002-08-03T00:01:04Z")
Okay, I looked at the trailer over at [www.startrek.com](http://www.startrek.com) and I have these reactions: Was Data working on Lore (or vice versa)? Picard making love? _ **DUNE BUGGIES!?!?** _ WTF? Nice digital effects. I’ll watch it. But I’ll probably hide my eyes during the dune buggy sequence(s). ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/27 "2002-08-03T00:06:50Z")
No, the potential was there for 8 & 9 to be stonkingly good - the fine actors, the characters, the special effects and the whole Trek universe to set it in and still the films were so-so. Trek doesn’t seem so fascinating when lifted to the big screen because the potential for a truly dramatic romp through the galaxy is squandered. I know its not what Trek is all about but when I have the whole of TOS, TNG, DS9 and to a (much) lesser extent Voyager to sift through for interesting/off beat stuff why not have the big screen as a chance to pull the stops out? ST:Inserrection vs Star Wars Episode II or even Ep’ I? Budget restrictions seem to have kept the valiant crew saving a village from some bad guys with two ships, great :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/28 "2002-08-03T00:07:43Z")
> [@](#): > > DUNE BUGGIES!?!? WTF? the Dune Buggy helps them solve crimes: “P-P-P-P-P-P-P-Picard, the Romulans are p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-prep-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-paring to fire!” ---
**Author:** ![Deadly\_Nightlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Deadly\_Nightlight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deadly_Nightlight)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/29 "2002-08-03T05:25:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*I’m with the even-numbers-are-good-or-at-least-not-too-bad camp. > > **Deadly Nightlight** , I wish I were going with you. \*\* You want to come? 😉 Meet you there at three o’clock ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/30 "2002-08-03T05:46:34Z")
I guess I’m the only one who kinda favors the odd-numbered flicks (excepting #1, of course, which sucked moose balls through a straw, but what the hey). And I’d WELCOME a change of direction in the movies to focus on the DS-9 experience. Always wondered what became of that corner of the cosmos after Sisko became one with the Prophets. And face it, Star Trek was never about movies. The theatrical releases are just there to placate the hoi polloi and maybe recruit new accolytes to the TRUE Trek on the boob tube. But, again, that’s just me. We all shine on!..Timmy ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/31 "2002-08-03T10:36:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Gah! Am I the only one that actually liked “Insurrection?” Admittedly, I lied Insurrection (and, admittedly, I’m pretty fucking drunk at the moment), but Chronos summed up my opinions of it. If it were just a regular TNG episose, it’d be among my top ten (well, maybe top twenty) favorite episodes of all time. But as a movie, it was just bleah. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/32 "2002-08-03T22:07:34Z")
I look forward to any Star Trek movie. I try not to get to critical. It’s only a movie. I might like Nemesis. The next movie (you know there will be one) ought to involve completely new characters, possibly in the future relative to the current Star Trek, maybe with a plot involving a time travelling ship, like the USS Relativity mentioned in Voyager, although with absolutly no Voyager connections. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2002, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/33 "2002-08-03T23:23:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Spiner thought he was getting too old to play a realistic android that doesn’t age. But he does age, as we learn in “Inheritance.” He has an “aging program” which ought to make him look quite hideous in about 150 years. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/34 "2002-08-05T23:11:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > The only reason most Trekkies are revved up about Nemesis is because of the Uber Warbird Of Doom (the bad guy’s Super Ship). “I shall call it a ‘Death Star’.” ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/35 "2002-08-06T05:00:06Z")
Oooooooooh…Persis Khambatta…oooooooh. 😛 Cartooniverse ( Not only was she hot hot hot, but my neice wound up named after her. She was the only Ilea within many hundreds of miles, I think… ) ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/36 "2002-08-06T14:12:13Z")
I vote “good”, or at least “passably good”, simply by virtue of the fact that it’s a even numbered one. Regarding the “worst of the series” title, that honor still belongs to #5. Even Gene Roddenberry (sp?), the Great Bird of the Galaxy, tried to declare that one non-canonical. Now at the risk of incurring wrath, I’ll say that this one should probably be the last of the series. I mean, the entire _Star Trek_ series, not just the NextGen series. Very few movie serieses have the staying power for more than 2 or 3 installments without looking silly. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/37 "2002-08-06T14:35:31Z")
**jab1** , according to the IMDB Brent Spiner is playing two roles: Data and “B-9,” which I’m guessing is another attempt at offspring. I can’t make the trailer play for some reason, but maybe B-9 is who you thought was Lore. Also, Dr. Leah Brahms will be in Nemesis, so apparently Wesley isn’t the only one who’s been knockin’ boots. You go, Geordi! ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/38 "2002-08-06T16:57:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > Also, some slight corrections to **RickJay** ’s list: No way, man! RickJay’s is the first “Rate the Trek Movies” I’ve seen on the 'net that I’ve totally agreed with. Though I don’t believe the “even numbered blessing/odd numbered curse” b.s. With only 9 to sample from (so far), and two anomalies (III was okay, IV was sub-par, while STG was just frustrating), it would be folly to base a forecast on the alleged pattern. Of more consequence is the release date. Notice how Trek movies as a rule are released late in the year? In this case, Star Trek V was the main anomaly (early summer '89), but it’s the exception that proves the rule. As for Stuart Baird, don’t think of him as a neophyte director because he’s not. He’s primarily an [editor](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Baird,+Stuart), with credits going back to “The Omen,” “Superman 1 & 2,” “Lethal Weapon 1 & 2” and “Demolition Man” (which _was_ directed by a neophyte, Marco Brambilla). ---
**Author:** ![rdky2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rdky2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rdky2000)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/39 "2002-08-06T19:19:36Z")
hi all! well,since its even numbered,should be ok.heard spock may make cameo,since he is supposed to be on Romulus. though why picard is on an “rv” in the desert,have no clue the romulans do have transporters… rich in seattle. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856/40 "2002-08-07T07:38:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\* > > the Dune Buggy helps them solve crimes: “P-P-P-P-P-P-P-Picard, the Romulans are p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-prep-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-paring to fire!” \*\* Tears. I’m in tears here. (From laughing if that wasn’t clear.) I’m going to have to third (fourth?) the previously expressed opinions of Insurrection: great episode, okay movie. It felt like a plot that had been written for the show, but couldn’t be trimmed to fit so it was stretched into a movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-star-trek-x-be-any-good/121856.md?page=3)