# Will Superman (or Clark Kent) ever have gay sex?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-books-manga\
**Created:** [February 28, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030 "2007-02-28T15:49:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/61 "2007-03-02T10:53:06Z")

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> Several writers of Wonder Woman have stated that due to her makeup and background, having her be bisexual only makes sense, and the only reason they don’t say it explicitly is because they’re chicken. They like to hint when they can, though.

I remember reading one article in which it was claimed that Paradise Island was a lesbian society and Wonder Woman was involuntarily exiled from it because she was a heterosexual. Her supposed mission of peace to the outside world was just a cover story.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/62 "2007-03-02T13:55:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
I remember reading one article in which it was claimed that Paradise Island was a lesbian society and Wonder Woman was involuntarily exiled from it because she was a heterosexual. Her supposed mission of peace to the outside world was just a cover story.  
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That’s cute, but it isn’t canon. Hippolyta, the queen of the Amazons and Diana’s mother liked guys, for one. She slept with Wildcat.

Which means Wildcat wins. In your face, Ollie.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/63 "2007-03-02T13:59:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
_duly noted_

:rolleyes:  
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It’s simply that I disagree that there’s any more _homophobia_ going on here than I find heterophobia in MOSWOK - and perhaps about the same giggling at the inherent ridiculousness of the sex act in either orientation.

I was going to mention Maggie Sawyer, who was painted as purely gay at around about the time of _The Return Of Superman_ and also as no more than [Granny Weatherwax]“handsome, considering”[/GW] - certainly not standard lesbian-to-titillate-the-straight-adolescent fare. But on Googling it seems that she works both sides of the street, and also varies considerably in attractiveness, which rather weakens the point.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/64 "2007-03-02T22:15:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Menocchio]  
Several writers of Wonder Woman have stated that due to her makeup and background, having her be bisexual only makes sense, and the only reason they don’t say it explicitly is because they’re chicken. They like to hint when they can, though.  
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I don’t know how many that “several” is, really, but when Kupperberg edited WW, he hinted that DC was uncomfortable doing more than _hinting_ that there was (practical/situational) lesbianism on Paradise Island, but that he himself saw the Amazons as lesbian. And his writers (Loebs & Byrne) wrote Diana as uninterested in lesbian sex (but then, she had no love life at all for about 5 years there :eek: ).

The thing is, Batman & Wonder Woman are special cases. Batman is written as straight but popularly perceived as gay. Wonder Woman is …perceived very differently by different people. But even there, the default line is that they are straight, period. It’s even more true for Supes.

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**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/65 "2007-03-02T22:34:47Z")

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[QUOTE=tremorviolet]  
If you liked Astolat’s fic, you’ve got to read Rageprufrock’s [Conflicts of Interest](http://glitterati.illuminatedtext.com/coi/coi.html) (and even longer sequel [Visiting Hours](http://glitterati.illuminatedtext.com/coi/vh1.html)). Amazing AU version of Kon’s story poulated with well realized characters.

You actually see a lot of m-preg in Superman slash; afterall, he is an alien so who knows what’s possible? 😉  
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Oh, I’m a huge fan of Pru’s as well! I really liked Conflicts a lot, but I confess to starting to lose interest about halfway through Visiting Hours. It just seemed to drag a bit after awhile. I like her SGA better.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/66 "2007-03-02T22:38:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Phase42]  
Actually, I think it would be more of a _run_around 😃  
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Hmm…you know, now that you mention it…Supes and Flash could both top and bottom at the same time. \>\_\>

Excuse me while I fix whatever loose screw caused me to imagine that scenario…

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**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/67 "2007-03-03T02:03:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Risha]  
Oh, I’m a huge fan of Pru’s as well! I really liked Conflicts a lot, but I confess to starting to lose interest about halfway through Visiting Hours. It just seemed to drag a bit after awhile. I like her SGA better.  
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You know, I have the same problem. When I reread 'em, I always skip all the high school and Smallville stuff and only read the begining and ending of that one. But I love the AU Lex/Clark relationship.

[Totally Off-topic]SGA is my favorite fandom! Although I’ve started reading Supernatural since Astolat has started writing it. I’ll read almost anything she writes.[/off topic rambling]

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/68 "2021-10-11T18:37:09Z")

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Update: Answer to OP- almost. Actually “Superman II” Clark and Lois’s son, but yeah.

> **[DC's Current Superman Has a Boyfriend](https://gizmodo.com/dcs-current-superman-has-a-boyfriend-1847838784)**
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> Jonathan Kent, Superman's son—and current Man of Tomorrow in the DC Universe—comes out as bisexual in his next comic.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/69 "2021-10-11T20:32:04Z")

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The real question should be “Is he still faster than a speeding bullet?” 🤨

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/70 "2021-10-12T00:33:00Z")

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Actually, this is Thooperman.

> **[Arizona GOP lawmaker melts down over reports Superman's son will be bisexual...](https://www.rawstory.com/wendy-rogers-superman/)**
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> In the new Superman comic book series, "Superman: Son of Kal-El," Jon Kent, the son of the famed Man of Steel, is planned to come out as bisexual, and fall for a male reporter named Jay Nakamura.This twist on a fictional superhero was evidently too...

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/71 "2021-10-12T01:31:10Z")

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Is homosexuality a symptom of red krytonite exposure?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/72 "2021-10-12T01:47:46Z")

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[Pink](https://superman.fandom.com/wiki/Pink_Kryptonite).

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/73 "2021-10-12T04:40:49Z")

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Have they ever shown any of these characters masturbating?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/74 "2021-10-12T06:19:44Z")

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The closest thing to a masturbating superhero is [Homelander.](https://youtu.be/exNDr_eJQ4s?t=84)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/75 "2021-10-12T16:12:26Z")

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There was the hilarious, pornographic, utterly non-safe for work parody “Superfag”. (If I can ever figure out what replaced the old noparse command I’ll post a link.)

ETA: use back-ticks or the preformatted code button. Spoilered for extra security (did I mention utterly NSFW?

`https://www.gayfus.com/picture/Jotto/Superfag/Issue-1/1`

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-superman-or-clark-kent-ever-have-gay-sex/394030/76 "2021-10-12T16:12:58Z")

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I can’t directly link to it, but there’s also The Pro, wherein a Superman Expy gets a handjob and his Super-swimmers knock down a plane. Written by Garth Ennis, of course. 🙄

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